[ SECRET POST #3566 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3566 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

What... exactly would that prove?

[(Anonymous)]

That Ash-Greninja could beat Mega Charizard X in battle. Sorry I wasn't more clear.

[(Anonymous)]

But you would be doing so in a game. Where game mechanics would apply. I mean, it's a good build so it wouldn't even be hard -- hell, in the meta game you could do it right now with some wacky Greninja set under the right circumstances. And still none of this would have any bearings on the writers' cheapness.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Fair point - I've understood for a while that the games and anime have different rules as the plot requires (I remember being annoyed in the first season when Pikachu knocked out Ground-types with Electric attacks), and you're right that ordinary Greninja probably could beat Mega Charizard X on its own, so I guess there's no real reason to do it.

My issue with the writing was more that Alain's win felt forced even by anime standards, between Charizard tanking Greninja's super-effective attack and taking out Greninja with Blast Burn.

I'm still looking forward to trying out Ash-Greninja and seeing how it's translated into the games, though.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

I do think the anime's outcome was pretty forced but being the nerd that I am, I can't help nitpicking you here, lol. So... would Gren's water shuriken still be considered super effective when you factor in the fact that Megazard X is part Dragon-type? (I know, I know, that's game logic...)

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

:) Point for you - checking the type chart, it would hit for neutral damage (then again, the giant Water Shuriken is an attack with no game equivalent).

I'm pretty sure Mega Charizard X's Blast Burn would be weak against Greninja, though, and by game rules Alain would have a harder time of it.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Oh dude, once we start mixing game and anime logic it opens the door for all kinds of wankery. Like, I've seen people argue that Megazard being Dragon-type somehow means that its fire attack is actually dragon fire and therefore Ash-Gren wouldn't resist that. Balls out insane.

Even if we recreated the entire anime battle faithfully in-game, though, there would still be people arguing over the fact that a fucking Pikachu took out a Metagross and still somehow had the strength to take more than one hit from a Mega. Writers will do as they please.