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fandomsecrets2016-10-13 07:10 pm
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Re: Trump/Fart
(Anonymous) 2016-10-14 03:22 am (UTC)(link)More significantly: Trump isn't exactly a Republican, but his supporters were mostly Republicans, and Republican politicians have been more than happy for forty years to pander to those impulses and to entertain those policies and to signal to those voters that they were in full agreement with them. Trumpism never emerged fully formed until now but it's been in the air for a long time and most Republican politicians have had no qualms at all with using it for electoral advantage.
Shit, didn't see GWB complaining when he won the Carolina primary after his advisers spread a rumor that McCain had fathered a black child, you know? Just because it's never been mainstream doesn't mean it didn't exist.
Re: Trump/Fart
Are you talking about policy (the word used in the comment I replied to) or impulses (i.e. racism etc.) or something else? I fully agree that he's saying a lot of things people have been previously not able to admit out loud that they agreed with. But he's not really standing on standard Republican policy, and he doesn't have the entire party under him. The GOP is fractured, maybe irreversibly, by his campaign.
Re: Trump/Fart
(Anonymous) 2016-10-14 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)That's a fair point & a good distinction. And I wouldn't agree with anon in saying that he's just broadcasting Republican policies. There is a policy distinction.
But I do think (again) that Republican politicians have been leaning into and courting the same impulses that have made Trump popular. And I don't think you can run away from that so easily, you know? Even if they don't support him now, they were perfectly happy for a long time to pander to the exact same kinds of politics, and to let the people who are now voting for Trump believe that they were kindred spirits.
It's not just that he's saying things out loud that elements of the Republican base believe. It's that he's saying things unambiguously that previous Republican politicians were only willing to suggest ambiguously and subtly hint at. If those things didn't line up with the actual politics of Republicans, Republicans were certainly happy getting in bed with it for the sake of votes and elections. And I don't think they can just throw up their arms now and act like it's morally abhorrent to them. And to me, it seems fairly undeniable that this attitude and policy on the part of Republican politicians was one of the things that made Trumpism possible in this country.
Re: Trump/Fart