[ SECRET POST #3579 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3579 ⌋

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03. [SPOILERS for Babylon 5]



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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

No, but neither were we able to go simply with the "alien beliefs are only beliefs and human science knows better" line. The kid was clearly 'wrong' after the operation. I think we are meant to infer that the equivalent of his soul was actually lost.

[(Anonymous)]

In what way was the kid "wrong"?

This is why we need to consign religion to the trash can of history. Bunch of outdated superstitions based on keeping the peasants and tribespeople in their place that have no place in a modern society.

[philstar22]

If that is your perspective, you'd be better off sticking to something besides Babylon 5. Babylon 5 was never disrespectful of spirituality and faith and religion even though it was created by an atheist. It recognized it as a part of life for some people.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh I recognise it is part of some (foolish) people's life, but I refuse to let them jam it into mine. They can keep their god off my lawn. Unfortunately the religiously are incapable of keeping their own dumb rules to their own dumb self and insist on trying to use it as an excuse to dictate how everyone else lives. Your big beard in the sky says you need to go to the synagogue, face mecca, praise jesus, and not eat cows then fine, but keep it to yourself.

[philstar22]

Well, I'll agree with you that a lot of religious people try to force their beliefs on others. I hate that. But then again, plenty of atheists also try to force their lack of belief on everyone. I'll keep my faith for myself because I believe it is a completely personal thing that shouldn't dictate how anyone who doesn't share it lives. But by the same token, it is equally wrong to try to force someone to go against their (non-offensive, not impacting anyone else) beliefs. And don't insult people for having faith when it has been a part of the human experience since humans evolved pretty much. You are insulting a huge portion of the world's population. I'm not going to go around insulting atheists. I respect people who don't have religious faith. I just think that it should go both ways.

[(Anonymous)]

You know what else has been a huge part of humanity since we first evolved, slavery. Which also went hand-in-hand with religion, we seem to have no problem condemning slavery but we're weak on religion,one of the main causes of it. You want to be religious, fine but keep quiet about it and don't ever try to convert anyone else, especially a child.

[(Anonymous)]

just because slavery is bad doesn't mean religion is bad

[(Anonymous)]

The argument used to defend religion applies just as much to slavery. There is no argument for religion which does not apply just as equally to slavery.

[(Anonymous)]

There is no argument for religion which does not apply just as equally to slavery.

this doesn't seem quite right

for instance, it seems to me that slavery basically contravenes the idea of the autonomy of the human person, whereas religion does not

[(Anonymous)]

Religions instruct to convert the unbelievers and punish those which won't be converted. Autonomy contravened right there.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you think that all religious people attempt to punish unbelievers who don't want to convert? Because it seems quite clear to me that they don't. And I'm not sure it's useful to insist on some sort of abstract, Platonic Nature of Religion that's distinct from religion as an actually-existing social phenomenon. In fact, it seems to me that the only thing that matters in this context - which is not about whether or not you or I might believe in the specific claims of religion, but about how we should approach religion in the world - is religion as a social phenomenon.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, this is hilarious. Did you learn all your religious facts from tv shows?

[(Anonymous)]

Some don't, but you don't seem very well informed on religions in general so I doubt we will get very far here

This statement is incorrect. Like, actually factually wrong.

[dancinbutterfly]

Say what you want about what religion makes people believe about their own personal existences, but I know my religion doesnt allow a person to join unless they ask, of their own free will, despite being turned down multiple times. The process of joining involves being turned away by religious leaders strictly because proselytizing and forced conversion is not allowed.

So I'm not saying that there are not religions that do that. But I am part of a religion, an ORGANIZED religion, that is proof that you are wrong and that religion as a concept does not inherently instruct people to convert unbelievers and punish resisters as a requirement for being a religion. You are just misinformed here, buddy. You flat out don't know what makes a religion if you think that because organized religions exist that do not, proving you wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

You know what else we've been doing since forever? Breathing.
It's almost like your argument is not an argument at all.

Also clearly you know nothing about history, if you think that religion was the main cause of slavery, but ok. Ignorance is your thing, that's cool.

[(Anonymous)]

Riiiiight, the bible has never laid out rules for the treatment of slaves, condoned slavery, nor been used as a justification for slavery? Every major religion has endorsed slavery in some way.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

"The Bible has been read as endorsing slavery" is a very different argument from "religion is the main cause of slavery".

Please stop moving the goalposts.

[(Anonymous)]

You are the one who keeps splitting hairs, you've accepted that religion is indivisible from slavery. You just want to try and focus on the slavery instead of the equal evil of religion.

[(Anonymous)]

I beat you haven't even read the bible. And whilst I know that people take verses from it and try to apply it to life, no fucker is out there going slavery, yaay! No sane person anyway, whose insanity has zero reflection on religion or the bible.

People are going to interpret writing however the fuck the want. They do that with most books, think of the guy who shot Lennon.

Again, its like you don't know what facts are...

[dancinbutterfly]

You read the part in the bible where it requires you to FREE your "slaves"(who because the halachic laws order that a master free their slaves after seven years of service is in fact more of an indentured servant which is splitting hairs and still not right) but like...it was one of the earliest systems that commanded people RELEASE people they otherwise owned. It was one of the first things, 2 and a half thousand years ago, that moved people away from life-long slavery. Not saying it doesnt condone it, but like, it also made positive steps and has been used throughout modern history as much as an argument AGAINST slavery as an argument for it. Check out the Quakers and other religiously-based Abolitionist movements if you actually care about reality rather than what you THINK religion is.

If you can dismount your high horse for a moment please.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, this is just moronic. Are you familiar with modern day slavery? Like even a little bit? Or are you just throwing out buzzwords to get people riled up?

And humanity does still have a problem condemning slavery (hello, it still exists).Claiming to be against people forcing their beliefs on others, then demanding those of religion stay silent? Get real.

[(Anonymous)]

All this fuss over what probably amounts to a couple of unwanted newsletters and one person who dared speak to you about their religion.

[(Anonymous)]

I was talking about what happened *on the show*, please get of your soapbox. His behaviour radically changed, he seemed to have a whole new, and uncaring, unconnected personality. It seemed as if the scriptwriters had something to say about human assumptions about aliens, but I see that inference and reflection aren't your strong suit so I guess no point trying to explore the piece of entertainment on its own merits.

[(Anonymous)]

...Yeah, in what way was the kid 'wrong'? He didn't seem any different after.