[ SECRET POST #3590 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3590 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

08. http://i.imgur.com/4H7RtMj.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

They're often less wanky, too...the small fandoms, anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

Unless they delve straight into the "you're racist if you pictured this vaguely described character as white instead of another skin colour!" territory.

[feotakahari]

I wonder what book fandom would be like if those wall-of-text physical descriptions from the 1930s were still in vogue. Check out The Maltese Falcon or Trent's Last Case--you get a pretty detailed description of how the MCs look.

[ninety6tears]

Well, many of them would still have people latching onto fancasts that don't really fit how the character is described all that well, I'm guessing.

[feotakahari]

To be fair, Humphrey Bogart didn't look much like the book's description of Sam Spade.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't stand fics that go on and on about the characters' looks tbh. I just need the basic facts for occasional referencing, unless it's a trait with some plot relevance (e.g. Harry's green eyes).

Freedom to explore character design in fan art used to be fun, but now it's all a Race for Progressiveness. You draw this ambiguously described character white? You are the lowest form of scum!

[otakugal15]

It's like the Hermione thing.

To preface this, I haven't read the books in a while, so my memories are a bit fuzzy. But fandom right now is INSISTING that Hermione is canonically dark skinned A) because of that godawful fanfic of a play and B) they insist that one passage in what...PoA where she and her family went on vacation and she tanned up a bit to where Harry noticed it means she MUST be a PoC.

No. No no no that doesn't mean jack shit. I mean, she could have had olive skin to start with and gotten tanner sure, but she was never described outside that one passage. So everything from white!Hermione to Black!Hermione is fair game, but nothing is canon. And JKR latching on to shit for brownie points doesn't mean it's canon either when it was never stated in the actual CANON material.

[alexi_lupin]

All JKR has said is that she's not canonically white. She hasn't claimed any canon ethnicity/race. I don't see how that's latching on.

[otakugal15]

She said that well after the fact and thus Hermione is still fair game. And oh YES the fandom has latched onto that. You can't go 5 feet on Tumblr without someone either drawing her that way or "factually" stating she is and "if you don't think so you are auto-racist." You know, never mind that people grew up with the series and have their own versions of her.

[alexi_lupin]

"And JKR latching on to shit"

I was talking about JK Rowling latching on, not fandom. I don't deny fandom has latched on, and some people take things too far. My position is that everyone's right. People who think she could be PoC are not contradicted by canon, nor are people who think she's white. We can all just imagine her how we want. I was just pointing out that I don't think it's JKR's fault - all she's said is that she never made Hermione's race explicit in the books. She didn't say what race Hermione is.

[(Anonymous)]

On the flip side, there's more room for people to fight about what characters look like and for new fans to run afoul of not marching in lockstep with some BNF's fanon.

[(Anonymous)]

For fanart I get it, but I really don't understand this kind of thing in fics. All you need are some basic physical fact for reference so people know who you're on about. Why is what they look like so important?

[(Anonymous)]

What an arbitrary, inane distinction. You book-humpers are a pretentious bunch. This type of secret is like a time capsule of Internet logic from 2001 or 1999. It really brings me back.

Most people think with the same basic, logical fallacies as they always have. That much hasn't changed. But now it's geared towards political correctness and fake social concerns on tumblr platforms.

[(Anonymous)]

...bruh eat some fiber.

[(Anonymous)]

my point still stands but lol

[(Anonymous)]

A good amount of fiber in the diet is healthy, but it can't work miracles...

[(Anonymous)]

What's so pretentious about wanting stuff left to your imagination?

[(Anonymous)]

NA Saying it's better than tv or movie fandoms.

I think each have their charms. (It's harder to comply with a complex tv-series canon than a complex book canon when you're writing fanfic, so there's that.)

[(Anonymous)]

OP didn't say it was better than TV or movie fandoms, though. OP said "so much more fun to me" (emphasis mine). There's nothing pretentious about enjoying one thing more than you enjoy another thing.

[(Anonymous)]

This is exactly why I prefer written PWP over live action porn.

[(Anonymous)]

I never got the appeal about Harry either, protagonists are typically duds. At the same time I'd go to war with trashing Ginny Weasley, even though I didn't care for Harry (or the pairing) much at all. Harry's status as a protagonist literally inflated Ginny's self-worth and entitlement of him and that's what really offended me about her stupid ass. It's was brazen and tactless, JKR couldn't even disguise her motives behind proving how much Ginny deserved him or how deserving she was of Harry.

It was horribly obnoxious and obnoxious writing.

Ginny is like a fiction gold-digger, only she's after fiction fame not irl fortune. /rant

It's funny OP but I recently had my own thoughts about trying to define Harry's personality. He has negative qualities, like having screaming fits, but that stands out because he's usually passive. I hoped I had better things to say about him but apparently that's the best I have atm.

[(Anonymous)]

What a good thing this misfired. Yeesh.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[otakugal15]

Hahahah and yet places like Tumblr will insist on a certain POC for certain characters and they will do back flips on why it's canon and woe be to anyone who dares to deviate.