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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-11-01 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #3590 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3590 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-11-01 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't stand fics that go on and on about the characters' looks tbh. I just need the basic facts for occasional referencing, unless it's a trait with some plot relevance (e.g. Harry's green eyes).

Freedom to explore character design in fan art used to be fun, but now it's all a Race for Progressiveness. You draw this ambiguously described character white? You are the lowest form of scum!
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2016-11-02 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
It's like the Hermione thing.

To preface this, I haven't read the books in a while, so my memories are a bit fuzzy. But fandom right now is INSISTING that Hermione is canonically dark skinned A) because of that godawful fanfic of a play and B) they insist that one passage in what...PoA where she and her family went on vacation and she tanned up a bit to where Harry noticed it means she MUST be a PoC.

No. No no no that doesn't mean jack shit. I mean, she could have had olive skin to start with and gotten tanner sure, but she was never described outside that one passage. So everything from white!Hermione to Black!Hermione is fair game, but nothing is canon. And JKR latching on to shit for brownie points doesn't mean it's canon either when it was never stated in the actual CANON material.
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[personal profile] alexi_lupin 2016-11-02 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
All JKR has said is that she's not canonically white. She hasn't claimed any canon ethnicity/race. I don't see how that's latching on.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2016-11-02 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
She said that well after the fact and thus Hermione is still fair game. And oh YES the fandom has latched onto that. You can't go 5 feet on Tumblr without someone either drawing her that way or "factually" stating she is and "if you don't think so you are auto-racist." You know, never mind that people grew up with the series and have their own versions of her.
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[personal profile] alexi_lupin 2016-11-02 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
"And JKR latching on to shit"

I was talking about JK Rowling latching on, not fandom. I don't deny fandom has latched on, and some people take things too far. My position is that everyone's right. People who think she could be PoC are not contradicted by canon, nor are people who think she's white. We can all just imagine her how we want. I was just pointing out that I don't think it's JKR's fault - all she's said is that she never made Hermione's race explicit in the books. She didn't say what race Hermione is.
Edited 2016-11-02 09:17 (UTC)