[ SECRET POST #3596 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3596 ⌋

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[fscom]

07. http://i.imgur.com/NOU2xmZ.png

[(Anonymous)]

For me it's less facial recognition and more complete change in characterization, how they hold themselves, ect. (see Chris Evans and Captain America.)

However, in the same vein, if the character is remarkably similar to one they played before, I've seen it like this. It's why I found it very hard to find some of the things Doctor Strange did "cool" when they were obviously meant to be. NO CUMBERBATCH THAT GOATEE IS NOT A GOOD IDEA WITH THAT HAIRCUT YOU LOOK TOO SILLY WHY COULDN'T THEY GET A LESSER KNOWN ACTOR MY GOD

[(Anonymous)]

I actually thought the styling was fairly flattering for his face.

And considering that Strange and Sherlock, for example, are very similar in character, I thought he did a great job not playing the exact same role twice.

(But yeah, a lot of actors suffer from typecasting. Like Martin Freeman- you can only play the "English everyman" role a limited number of ways and he gets typecast for this type of role all the time.)

[kallanda_lee]

yeah, I agree, I feel it was a proof of him being an at least decent actor - because he did play them so differently.

[kallanda_lee]

It's...make-belief? Like, obviously I know logically that it's an actor, but it's not the actor I came to see - it's the character. And actually, depending on differences in how the actor/character speaks, dresses, carries themselves etc...I might be attracted to the one, but not the other. It's not that I can't tell from their face who they are...it's that twins could be very different people, too.

[(Anonymous)]

This secret is kind of interesting because I'm seriously wondering if OP has no imagination???? I don't know how else to word it (sorry OP.)

Facial recognition has nothing to do with getting caught up with a character and most people DO KNOW that it's make believe.

[kallanda_lee]

Yeah...I just find it odd to blame it on facial recognition? I'm very good with faces, but it does not work like that for me at all.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's so much about facial recognition as it is about letting your imagination run wild. I like getting caught up in fantasies so I'm usually looking to get attached to a character, even if I know the actor well.

I actively dislike things that take me out of a story, whether is be bad acting, cheesy effects or bad writing. I try to ignore it all to a certain extent but for me when I start thinking "(actor) playing the role of (character)" too much it means I'm not being properly entertained.

Some actors are very one note and it's hard to see them as the characters they play, for instance Sean Connery is always Sean Connery in no matter what I see him in.

[(Anonymous)]

"for instance Sean Connery is always Sean Connery in no matter what I see him in"

OP here

I'm like that with every actor. That's the problem.

I do not have "no imagination", contrary to the wild and WTF accusations above. I have no problem with animated or cartoon characters, book characters who don't have an appearance at all, video game characters, etc. It's the actors.

[dinogrrl]

Like the others said, I don't think this is an issue of too strong of a facial recognition ability, but maybe more of not being able to suspend disbelief enough to see the character instead of the actor? It's like...it's not that people CAN'T see the actor*, they just decide not to care so much about that for an hour and a half. But if you see Actor as Actor no matter what, either they're not doing a good job acting, or your brain is just really pragmatic :p.

*Well, most people. I'm one who has terrible facial recognition capabilities so I do actually have a lot of trouble figuring out who an actor is through their makeup/costume/whatever. I need to see an actor in a few different roles before I can start recognizing them on sight. Sometimes. Sorta.

[(Anonymous)]

OP

I try, but I can't not see the actor. As soon as it almost works, the actor does something and then I'm reminded it's the actor again. It's like an involuntary mental !you recognize this person! alert.

[(Anonymous)]

your brain is just really pragmatic

This is basically what I was thinking.

Oddly, while my brain is very NOT this way most of the time, it turns out that when I'm stoned my brain is super pragmatic in this way. Which seems like the opposite of how most people are when they're stoned, but yeah. If I try to watch TV/a movie while stoned, all I can see is the technical side of things. My brain can't believe in what I'm watching at all, it just fixates on the actors acting and the camera filming and the words the writer chose to put in the actors mouths. It freaked me out quite a bit the first time I ever watched something stoned.

[dethtoll]

I don't have that problem, but it's nice to know I'm not alone in being better with faces than names.

[(Anonymous)]

OP

Luckily I'm only really terrible with fictional character names, lol.

[(Anonymous)]

I am so shit with names despite being good with faces! Faces stick with me, but I will forget a name within two seconds. It just. Does. Not. Sink. In.

I actually have a little cheat sheet of neighbors I don't see much where I write down their names and a notes about what they look like. I can match a face to things like where they live and how their son broke his leg skateboarding and all kinds of other details, but I need to write down names because I won't remember them. I've gone entire conversations silently and purposefully repeating the name the person gave me over and over in my head so I'd be able to write it down later.

[sarillia]

I thought most people were better with faces than names. People usually think I'm weird for remembering names so well but walking right past someone because I don't recognize them as a person I've met before. Plus I think at least half the people I've ever met have gone "I'm sorry, I'm so bad with names, what was your name again?" and I've watched people say the same to others over and over.

[(Anonymous)]

Op, it's almost the same for me. If it's a high-profile actor, that's who I see on screen. I can suspend disbelief but only if it's someone I haven't seen before.

That's the reason why I prefer animation, games,books,plays,etc over live action. I can enjoy it but I don't get emotionally attached to the characters.

I think it's just about recognition. If I've seen the actor in multiple roles or magazines, I just can't see them as anyone else. It's definitely a lack of imagination, as I can get immersed in the worlds and plots.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

My second paragraph may be confusing. I mean I can enjoy live action even though I'm not attached to the characters.

Also, I missed the "not". It's definitely not a lack of imagination.

[(Anonymous)]

I love old movies, but I sometimes feel a bit like this with actors in old movies (say, before the 1960s) but never newer movies. Based on some of your comments in this thread, OP, its almost for the opposite reasons?

It's kind of like I see those earlier actors almost as fictional characters themselves, or I see them as holograms who had no existence off-screen - I can read about their lives, but it's like their lives are fictional stories - and they would just get plugged into movies in different combinations.

Maybe it's because most of them were dead before I was old enough to care about old movies - if not before I was born. As for actors in more recent movies, even though I don't follow celebrity gossip, I can't help but hear some of it and that makes me see the actors as real people.

Paradoxically, I can separate character and actor just fine when the actors are more real to me, but when they aren't real, the characters seem to blur together more. Like, Jennifer Lawrence is a real person with ex-boyfriends and stuff and she tripped that one time and I can lose myself in the characters she plays, but Olivia de Havilland was some kind of robot and even though I adore here, I usually just see Olivia (who is still alive at 100!)

[caerbannog]

We would never be able to have serious convo anon hahahaha. Too many communication issues. You go by actor and struggle with names. I go by character and struggle with actors. If I remember the character name at all 😂

[(Anonymous)]

You would be surprised. My mother is pretty much the same as OP, and I'm more like you (plus I have zero facial recognition ability, to make matters worse) and we have the best conversations about the films we both love. It's very interesting to hear what grabs another person's interest and to express what makes you fall in love with a piece of art, when you are so fundamentally different. It's like appreciation mixed with a bit of psychological exercise.

[(Anonymous)]

We seem to suffer from very opposite cases, nonny. I have terrible face recognition abilities, and most of the time I can't recognize actors even if I watched other films that featured them, and even if it is the same actor in the same role I get confused if they change some parts of their looks (I think the only actor I can recognize dependably is Dicaprio, and only because my sister is a big fan). I only remember them as characters, and just...fail to make any mental ties with their actor part, I guess? So even when I am reading/writing fanworks I don't actually remember what they look like, I just remember them as sort of this idea of character. Sounds weird, I know.

[(Anonymous)]

Perhaps you're just not watching movies with good actors? Most of them make a career out of playing one type of character (that's not necessarily a bad thing). Relatively few actors like to challenge themselves and really disappear into a role.

If that's not it, it sounds like a spectrum thing. Have you been tested?

[amanuensis1]

You know how some people can watch a stage musical, and think, "How fun!" But those same people can watch a movie musical and all they can think is, "WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE SINGING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET?"

I imagine it might be something like that for the OP. There are some fictions for which a person just can't find it in them to suspend disbelief, and no, they can't force themselves past it.

Similarly I have a friend who can't fully enjoy any superhero movie because her brain is completely stuck on, "Physics does NOT WORK THAT WAY." I think we all have some issue for "cannot suspend disbelief," and the one you describe is yours, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

OP, I'm sorry you have this problem. Question for you. Have you ever tried just listening to a movie, but not watching the visuals? It might help you 'see' the character and not the actor. Just a suggestion! I hope that somehow you figure out a way to enjoy visual media.