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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-11-12 03:38 pm

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Festival of Remembrance

(Anonymous) 2016-11-12 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
It is only 19 minutes into this year's Festival of Remembrance and worryingly it seems far more celebratory of war than remembering the fallen. Maybe it will change to more respectful remembrance as it goes on. I don't think we should be celebrating war, troops, or battles, we should all just stick to remembering the men and women who died in them and the over prideful politicians who sent them all to those deaths.

Re: Festival of Remembrance

(Anonymous) 2016-11-12 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Honest question: do you think that war is always unjustified?

Re: Festival of Remembrance

(Anonymous) 2016-11-12 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
All the recent ones in the modern era, yeah.

Re: Festival of Remembrance

(Anonymous) 2016-11-12 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Surely you don't mean WW2?

Re: Festival of Remembrance

(Anonymous) 2016-11-12 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Can you just jump to the Godwin moment please. I know that is what you are trying to baby step up to.

Regardless of how it turned out, Chamberlain was a man who absolutely did the right thing as far as the UK was concerned, he pursued peace at great personal cost up until the very last moment. That wasn't a failing, the modern era's desire to skip any attempt at pursing peace and jump straight to giving war a chance is one though. We don't do enough to try and find peace.

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Re: Festival of Remembrance

[personal profile] ibbity 2016-11-12 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like "how it turned out" tends to have a LOT to do with the rightness of things done that affect huge swathes of the planet, personally. Also, Chamberlain was short-sighted as fuck and utterly failed to genuinely grasp what Hitler was actually trying to do.
Edited 2016-11-12 23:35 (UTC)

Re: Festival of Remembrance

(Anonymous) 2016-11-12 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Chamberlain knew exactly what Hitler was doing, that was why he was scrambling to build up the UK's industrial capability in time. When he returned from Munich he had a cabinet meeting in which he said he was certain that within two years they would be at war with Germany. Even Churchill admitted, after becoming PM and seeing the official papers, that there was little he could have done differently. At the same time, having already seen one generation sent into a bloodbath which destroyed them physically and mentally, he was brave enough to do everything to pursue peace for as long as possible. That was completely the right thing to do in that time and that place.

The bigger question is why the third member of the big three who signed up to guarantee peace and security in Europe at Versailles, and ensure that Germany would never be a threat again, did so pissing little over the course of the early war? Britain and France, both of whom who had much more to lose and were in much more perilous states, stepped up and fought once the last hopes of peace slipped away. Where was the other guarantor of peace? The United States of America? Why were they so cowardly as to try and sit it out? Cowards, the lot of you.