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Private tutor here - parents who'd rather their kids flunk out of school than skip one season of sports while they get their grades back on track.

I realize it's not that simple, a lot of parents are looking at scholarships and also compromising with their kids, but the funny thing is that my latest kid didn't even like sports that much. His dad made him play them. Grr. It's honestly made me wary of sports parents in general, which I know really isn't fair since plenty prioritize both grades and sports. However, I have friends who teach at colleges and they say those same types of kids get there expecting to pass just because they're athletes. Nope.

Athletic scholarships need minimum academic grades, and the schools who will auto-pass athletes are getting fewer and farther apart. Oklahoma State U will though, but the downside is you have to go to OSU.

AYRT - Exactly to both. Especially the former; in fact, a lot of schools need minimum academic grades. Certainly the ones in my area. So the scholarship argument only holds up to so many people.

Auto-passes do happen, but only if the student is fucking phenomenally good at football or basketball and their family is also rich enough or connected enough to bring in serious donations. Your average dirt farmer poors scholarship is never going to be good enough to get those autopasses. Not unless he is also letting the coach molest him with no bitching. Focus on the grades, chances are your kid will never be good enough and rich enough to qualify for an autopass.

It in NOT simple. Like, I know it's different in the US because the scholarship thing is weird but...take for example my niece. She had a good shot of going into professional sports. At this point point she might not make it, but it was too good of an opportunity to not even try.

Now, this is a girl who prioritizes sport over parties, boyfriends, other hobbies - most things really.

She's also dyslexic and not very interested in academia in general. She almost ended up flunking a year (in the end she didn't), but I honestly felt at that point the sport was more important. I finished high school late because mental issues - and really, in the grand scheme of things one year is not going to make such a huge difference in a human life.

If she fails to be an athlete, she wants to be a physical therapist for athletes.

Now, of course this is different from people who are pushed or expect to pass - but, for kids who will never really go on to university, and aren't that great at school,the sport might be a safer bet for the future.

Eh. I can almost see that, except that making a living being a professional athlete is quite a long shot for most people. There are LOTS of talented athletes at the high school and college level, but fewer at a professional level, especially if you're not in one of the favored sports, i.e. football, basketball, etc. It's also a career where one bad accident or injury can destroy your chances.

Meanwhile, if kids who "aren't that great in school" concentrate on sports rather than trying to get better at schooling, that seems to be a very poor gamble given everything I've said above. Your chances of earning a liveable wage even if you don't graduate at the top of your class are far better than becoming a professional athelete.

A lot of people can and do become trainers (if they were high enough level) though, or other jobs in the sports infrastructure.

I agree that one should finish highschool, but if you're not really interested/motivated/talented then college is a waste of time, effort and money (also sports careers are short lived because of physical realities, you can always go back to college after).

I have two degrees and am currently doing a shitty job that doesn't even need a college degree...so, meh. no guarantee.

Maybe it is different where you live, but generally becoming a trainer requires advanced education.
http://study.com/articles/Athletic_Trainer_Educational_Requirements_and_Career_Summary_for_the_Field_of_Athletic_Training.html
As do a lot of other jobs in the sports field. (Unless you want to just sell things or something like that.) So education is still important.

Yup. And I'm not sure what the ratio of trainers to professional atheletes is, but I'm guessing there are fewer of them, and they're less well paid. I don't think it's a fantastic back up plan, myself.

As for college, no, it's definitely not for everyone. But everyone should at least get their high school diploma and aim for some higher education, whether it's a four year college, community school or a trade. Just shrugging and saying that well, someone's better than sports than they are at school so forget school and hope for a career in sports seems like a very risky gamble.

argh that's so sad. about his dad making him play when he didn't want to. :/

I heard something on NPR recently that academic scholarships are more numerous than athletic scholarships and the total amount of money available for them is greater. That means, statistically, any given child has a greater chance of getting an academic scholarship than an athletic one and it's more lucrative for kids to put their energy into academics if they want scholarships. It's not like you have to be valedictorian. I was not a straight-A student and had no minority status or hard-luck story, and yet the university I went to gave me a partial merit-based grant.

They also said that the way kids sports programs work, most kids don't actually get to play enough to get good. They spend too much time on the bench or in a bus riding to games and not enough time actually playing and practicing.

Yeah but the way kids sports programs are set up is stupid. They want to cover the social players and the wannabe pro players in one go, and often hook in the kids who wouldn't otherwise exercise too. Each of those groups has very different needs and wants as an outcome, and for the latter too you gotta make sure that all the kids get equal game time. The only way to serve the wannabe pro players is to get them dedicated lessons with high one-on-one coach interactions and lots of field time, and that means high fees or the city raising taxes. And they city can't raise taxes for sports alone, because everybody riots if the football team get more funding but the STEM and Arts subjects don't, so taxes gotta go way up.

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But why should our taxes cover someone getting the training to be a professional athlete over arts or STEM? I personally feel taxes should only go to sports to get kids off the streets, out of their houses, and engaged. It is not the city's responsibility to get kids ready to play pro sports. I only know tennis, but I know the USTA will give grants and help to kids who are good and need the extra coaching. It is organizations like that that should be spending the money to potentially make kids pro athletes. Not the cities through taxes. I would prefer libraries and museums and schools and pre-k and after school programs be funded by city taxes over pro sports training for kids. A million times over.

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