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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-12-04 03:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #3623 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3623 ⌋

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Re: Accidental wank

(Anonymous) 2016-12-04 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I once mentioned I liked a series of stories about a fox called Reynard. I got a blistering lecture about how they were based on old French folk tales that were racist and could be construed as also containing material relating to sexual activity involving children and so, even though the version I liked from my childhood had been utterly purged of all that racist and potentially pedophilic material, I had to be an evil racist pedophile. I had no idea the old medieval French material even existed either.

Re: Accidental wank

(Anonymous) 2016-12-04 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh wow, I think I remember those! The clever fox? I remember one about him trying to outsmart wolves... I don't remember anything racists as I don't remember any humans being in the story, but I come from a white privilege background so it's entirely possible 9 year old me overlooked it.

Re: Accidental wank

(Anonymous) 2016-12-05 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure most of the Roman de Renart is about Reynart outsmarting Ysengrin, unless he's outsmarting Ysengrin's wife, Hercent. IIRC, King Noble, the lion, wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer either, and come to think of it, even Renart sometimes does dumb shit.

Renart is your typical underdog-trickster hero, like Compere Lapin in Afro-Creole folklore, and it's more about class than race--I think he's supposed to be a peasant, while Ysengrin is a noble or maybe cleric? And now that I think on it, maybe the reason OP's friend thought Reynard is full of racist stereotypes is that they were confusing it with the version of Compere Lapin (aka Beer Rabbit) from Disney's Song of the South.

Re: Accidental wank

(Anonymous) 2016-12-05 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
It's actually Brer Rabbit, which is what I typed, but autocorrect turned it into Beer Rabbit.
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Re: Accidental wank

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2016-12-05 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh, thanks.

Re: Accidental wank

(Anonymous) 2016-12-04 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
What, they didn't *only* lecture you for not knowing the old medieval French material in the first place and being an uncultured Philistine? ...or something?
/tongue in cheek

Re: Accidental wank

(Anonymous) 2016-12-04 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
don't give them ideas!!!!
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Re: Accidental wank

[personal profile] thewakokid 2016-12-04 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, that's fucking stupid. Raynard was a trickster, and sure he was from a time where some of his tales are a bit... iffy, but come on people, there's not a mythology out there that isn't a little iffy. There's not a gos damned thing wrong with liking that stuff.