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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-12-24 04:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #3643 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3643 ⌋

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[personal profile] iambecomebees 2016-12-24 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Martin Sensmeier is Native Alaskan

(Anonymous) 2016-12-24 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
what's your point
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[personal profile] iambecomebees 2016-12-24 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
native Alaskans and native Americans arent the same race. It's like having a chinese actor play a korean character.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-24 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying it's perfect but having Chinese actors play Korean characters would be a step up from where Hollywood generally is right now.

(I'm actually not sure whether or not that's harmful in itself, but even if it is, it's an improvement)
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[personal profile] iambecomebees 2016-12-24 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It's better than white guys yeah. But im saying native Alaskans and americans aren't interchangable. Personal anecdotes and all, but I've met Native American people who would start with "I'm not native Alaskan ok?" I'm sure it must go the other way around too.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-24 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
When did Alaska leave the Americas? Why was I not told??? Did Russia take them?
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[personal profile] iambecomebees 2016-12-24 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, I got schooled by you

(Anonymous) 2016-12-24 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Would you call a native Hawaiian a Native American? If someone said Native American is that what you'd think of?

(Anonymous) 2016-12-24 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, Alaska is geographically part of the American continent in a way that Hawaii is not. That's not a great argument.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-24 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Last I checked, Hawaii was part of the United States of America, like anon said.

My point was that the native peoples of a country, in this case the USA, are not necessarily all one unified native people or even the same races.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-24 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I accept the point that you're making, I'm just saying that it was a bad example, because there's a justification for calling Native Alaskans Native Americans besides the fact that they live in the United States of America which does not exist in the case of native Hawaiians

there's a distinction there between the two cases

(Anonymous) 2016-12-24 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
If you want to pare all social and cultural meaning from the term Native American and use it to mean any native people who lived in the continental Americas then... ok? Except by that logic, the native peoples of Canada and Mexico and South America are "Native Americans". I don't know why one would do that or what kind of logical purpose that serves, though.

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[personal profile] iambecomebees 2016-12-24 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
They're not part of the same cultural GROUP as Native Americans. Your argument is saying that you can call them Native Americans because they're native peoples who live in a part of the American continents. And Alaska may be connected to the same landmass but it's still very isolated due to mountains and water, particularly before cars.

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(Anonymous) 2016-12-25 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Do you want some help untwisting those panties?

(Anonymous) 2016-12-25 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I still can't believe Lee Byunghyun's popular after the shit he pulled.

He cheated on his wife with some K-Pop idols, then played it off like they were manipulating him. And he got away with it too. Well, they WERE blackmailing him, but STILL.

Sorry, slightly drunk.
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[personal profile] fishnchips 2016-12-25 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Since I'm neither his wife nor one of those idols, I couldn't care less what he does with his personal life (in the realm of legality, obviously) as long as he gives a good performance as an actor.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-25 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Same
[nayrt, obvs]

(Anonymous) 2016-12-25 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
He honestly sounds like a total scumbag, it's not like this is even the first shitty thing he's done to a woman, so it kinda hurts me that I still love him as an actor :(

(Anonymous) 2016-12-25 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
I just appreciate that the survivors were the non-white characters.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-25 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
OP, I think it depends where you live. For the record, I was born in year 1989 and my area had one person into any queer content (openly). How do I know it was one? Essentially her friends were all 'in secret' - I was massively surprised when it turned out some of my classmates exchanged HP books with her once (yeah, in a dark corner of school at 7 AM). Other people in other towns heard of her - she was also an outed lesbian. Not one person from my town (60k people) was out until recently. There was no queer content and if we seen it on internet we never mentioned it, at 16, she mentioned being into yaoi to me and I had no idea what it was. Then she mentioned being butch, also had no idea what it was. Was not sheltered, pretty rebellious and yes, gay.

Few years ago, had a friend who was a teacher and teenagers he taught were reading some books with queer characters and sharing them and he was so shocked, same as when the school did not fire him for being gay. It was a school that was last resort for teenagers when they got kicked out of all others. Meanwhile, a history teacher in my town was fired only because he was rumoured to be gay AND beaten up by his students (he transferred to mine, no idea if he was gay or anything else - he was a pretty bad teacher but could have been because all the pressure on him, so cannot judge, was not out myself). There was a short progressive period but it is indeed going backwards like people speaking about full circle above.

For some reason it was also easier for queer teenagers to admit being into yaoi / yuri than to be out, which was what my boyfriend did (he was that weird yaoi shipper, I keep laughing about it as his old Devart had gems like 'I will go to a con to see REAL LIFE YAOI!'). Ruined him and put a ring on it, so he cannot be all innocent yaoi shipper now. Aw.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-25 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
OP, I think it depends where you live. For the record, I was born in year 1989 and my area had one person into any queer content (openly). How do I know it was one? Essentially her friends were all 'in secret' - I was massively surprised when it turned out some of my classmates exchanged HP books with her once (yeah, in a dark corner of school at 7 AM). Other people in other towns heard of her - she was also an outed lesbian. Not one person from my town (60k people) was out until recently. There was no queer content and if we seen it on internet we never mentioned it, at 16, she mentioned being into yaoi to me and I had no idea what it was. Then she mentioned being butch, also had no idea what it was. Was not sheltered, pretty rebellious and yes, gay.

Few years ago, had a friend who was a teacher and teenagers he taught were reading some books with queer characters and sharing them and he was so shocked, same as when the school did not fire him for being gay. It was a school that was last resort for teenagers when they got kicked out of all others. Meanwhile, a history teacher in my town was fired only because he was rumoured to be gay AND beaten up by his students (he transferred to mine, no idea if he was gay or anything else - he was a pretty bad teacher but could have been because all the pressure on him, so cannot judge, was not out myself). There was a short progressive period but it is indeed going backwards like people speaking about full circle above.

For some reason it was also easier for queer teenagers to admit being into yaoi / yuri than to be out, which was what my boyfriend did (he was that weird yaoi shipper, I keep laughing about it as his old Devart had gems like 'I will go to a con to see REAL LIFE YAOI!'). Ruined him and put a ring on it, so he cannot be all innocent yaoi shipper now. Aw.

(Anonymous) 2016-12-25 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
SA! Was meant it to 3 and reposted on accident as thought it did not appear and it did in 2, darn!
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the Billy Rocks or Goodnight Robicheaux tumblr tag is your friend

[personal profile] dancinbutterfly 2016-12-25 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
we wait for you there, friend. Check your "shoulds" at the door and join us in the guilt free joy of seeing "bachelor marriage" (system of homosocial[not always but usually homosexual] union) displayed on screen by two awesome actors.

Not OP, but....

(Anonymous) 2016-12-26 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Thaaaank you. :)