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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-04-29 05:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #480 ]


⌈ Secret Post #480 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 08 pages, 193 secrets from Secret Submission Post #069.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - more whining ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: 07

(Anonymous) 2008-04-30 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Not a troll. Fanfiction by nature does not equal canon. Things that are not canon do not matter. If someone's actually interested in furthering their writing abilities, co-opting someone else's world/characters is not the way to do it, it's disrespectful.

Hence why this is Fandom Secrets; it's obvious that if I said this out loud I'd get eviscerated.

Re: 07

[identity profile] darsynia.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Things that are not canon do not matter to me.

Left out a couple of words.

If someone's actually interested in furthering their writing abilities, co-opting someone else's world/characters is not the way to do it, it's disrespectful.

What about the authors/creators who actively encourage fanfiction? Or do they not count, and you're just lump summing everyone into 'people who create legitimate things' and 'people who steal from them?'

Hence why this is Fandom Secrets

Exactly, and that's why I can call troll and not worry that I've shat on someone's opinion, because they posted it in a place where people actively mock or squee over the secrets posted.

Hey, you're entitled to your opinion, just don't forget the 'to your opinion' part of that sentence. Just because you say it's so doesn't make it so, you're not Jean Luc Picard.
Edited 2008-04-30 01:57 (UTC)

Re: 07

[identity profile] xanykaos.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
Made of Win. Especially that last sentence and the icon.

(Honestly, I think I'm gonna use the Picard thing on my sibs.)

Re: 07

[identity profile] darsynia.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
*grins* Thank you! There's always time for Picard. Though I don't have an icon for him, woe.

Re: 07

(Anonymous) 2008-04-30 08:18 am (UTC)(link)
Left out a couple of words.

Not so much. If it's not canon, then it has nothing to do with the source material, which is why I would assume someone would join a fandom to begin with.

What about the authors/creators who actively encourage fanfiction? Or do they not count, and you're just lump summing everyone into 'people who create legitimate things' and 'people who steal from them?'

In that case, feel free to knock yourself out. I wouldn't call it theft (unless someone was trying to sell their product) so much as displaying an utter lack of creativity. If you didn't make it, it's not yours to use. Does no one actively feel uncomfortable using something so personal as another person's creation?

I would hope that everyone understands that a statement that isn't fact is by default an opinion. It was obviously a mistake to come here looking for discussion.

Re: 07

[identity profile] darsynia.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 10:46 am (UTC)(link)
It was obviously a mistake to come here looking for discussion.

Clearly.

While I can understand the desire to discuss? Your wording screams condescension and disgust, which really doesn't foster discussion. Discussions usually don't involve broad statements of 'truth' stated as opinion, either.

I'll admit to using icons that would probably upset you as well, but I guess that's my 'utter lack of creativity.' LOL.

Re: 07

[identity profile] relmneiko.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 11:35 am (UTC)(link)
This is secretly J.D. Robb, isn't it.

Jokes aside, derivative fiction is a natural and common part of storytelling. James Joyce's Ulysses is fanfic of Homer. The Once And Future King and Gawain and the Green Knight and every other damn Arthurian tale out there is fanfic of common folk stories... stories which were passed down from person to person, each teller changing and adding details to their liking - oh wait, that sounds like fanfiction again.

People get into fandom because they want to play with 'what ifs' the things that couldn't happen in canon because of author's whim or genre/media constraints or censorship. For certain fandoms - I know for my part in the Kingdom Hearts fandom, I really don't give two shits about canon. Between the Disney and the raging sexism I can't play any of the games without wanting to gag. What I DO enjoy about the games is the pretty and the slash shipping, which is VERY VERY MUCH SO served by the fandom - and Jesus do fanfic writers write better than whoever wrote the script for KH.

Anyway, this is just one example... honestly, at the end of the day, even if you don't understand why people like fandom, that doesn't diminish its value. It just means you don't understand it.