[ SECRET POST #3650 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3650 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

then support webcomics or whatever

expecting a country that's more conservative than the US to have much in the way as niche as trans dudes is silly

[vethica]

To be fair, in my experience there are much more trans women in manga than trans men (and no, not just counting porn). I don't think it's so weird for OP to want to see a little more representation of the latter.

[(Anonymous)]

There are more trans women than trans men in RL.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Lol nah, the statistics you likely heard that bit of myth from were ones that only considered trans men who had obtained surgery as being "legitimate", and considering how much longer trans female surgery has been a wider-known thing, it's not hard to see where those skewed statistics come from.

More recent statistics show there's a pretty equal distribution, which also seems to bear out even on heavily AMAB places like Reddit when you compare the subscriber count to places like /r/MtF and /r/FtM.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, ignore the person who commented below you. That's a load. Not to mention the very first person in Japan to pursue legal gender reassignment surgery (without going abroad, I'm sure trans people of both genders went abroad when it was illegal in Japan) was a trans man. He called a doctor who specialized in phalloplasties for Japanese men who lost part or all of their genitals in accidents, and he asked if this doctor could do it.

So it's not exactly as if there's not a bunch of trans men in Japan. They're a huge part of the trans scene there (and everywhere else, obviously).

[(Anonymous)]

Do webcomics even have trans guys? All I've seen is trans women.

[feotakahari]

There's one in El Goonish Shive, but he's barely appeared so far.

[(Anonymous)]

I want him and Sarah to date. (But also Sarah to date Tedd and Grace)

[raspberryrain]

Yeah, Dan may have other ideas: Yet another Sarah ship, and Dan says this was his choice to draw. e_e

(OK, I think that probably doesn't mean much. I suspect that after treating Elliot/Sarah as an Official Couple for so long, Dan just likes teasing ships with each of them and anybody else.)

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like there are some I'm not thinking of.

Ash in Misfile is sort of in that vein, but for different reasons. He presents as female because of the whole "secret supernatural hijinks" thing, but his problem has a lot in common with AFAB pre-transition dysphoria.

[kamino_neko]

Of the top of my head, Sam from EGS, mentioned above, and Mars from The Princess. There's probably a few others that I've read, but I am blanking on. Both those comics also include genderfluid characters, and The Princess is about a trans girl.

[(Anonymous)]

Not a complete example: Angel in Sticky Dilly Buns is physically female and genderfluid. Some characters only know Angel as a "he."

[feotakahari]

It seems kind of strange to refer to people as "niche." Interests can be "niche," but human beings simply exist or don't exist, and in this case they exist.

[(Anonymous)]

A trans man is just another man. Trans women are the ones with a thirdsex identity.

[raspberryrain]

That is complete bollocks.

[(Anonymous)]

fuckouttahere

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Then please, show me all these awesome webcomics with trans men as the main characters! (And isn't "trans 101" please, I'm tired of reading the same trans 101 crap, give me trans male princes and

I mean it, seriously. I honestly don't give a shit ultimately where the thing comes from, even if I feel there's a particular dearth of them in Japanese media.

But here's the thing. Even though he's annoyingly fetishized at times for his pre-hormone body, Tetsuo is the main character in his story. He's explicitly trans. He's explicitly bisexual.

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The male character who gets a crush on him and spends a lot of the manga playing a "doth protest too much" about being bisexual (he claims he's not attracted to men) eventually has to admit he fell for Tetsuo because Tetsuo is a man.


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There is a huge lack of these sorts of stories. EVERYWHERE. But especially within Japan.

Also, lol there is heaps of trans female and trans feminine representation in Japanese media compared to trans men. So that's not an excuse. If you want to bring up Japan's misogyny which affects trans men uniquely in our portrayals ("oh you're just afraid of men, that's why you wanna BE ONE", "you just need some hot cis dick to remember it's okay to be a feminine layyydeeee" etc etc) I'd give you a point, but acting like Japan doesn't have a bit of a thing for gender bending portayals and transgenderism--as long as it's AMAB, is ridiculous.

OP again

[(Anonymous)]

My sentence cut off. It was supposed to read:

"Give me trans male princes and cyborgs and detectives and superheroes and basically anything but 'hi, I'm yet another Average Trans Guy, here to tell you about Average Trans Male Things'. I want what anybody else wants when they want to see representation in their escapism."

Re: OP again

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, I hate to burst your bubble, but most people don't like/give a shit about trans people, that's why the only stories with trans characters are stories revolving around their transition. No one wants to read about a trans detective doing detective things or a trans superheroes saving the world. Your kind are only good for stories about their abnormality (no offense here).

Look at homosexuals. Most people don't mind them, that's why we have stories about lesbians saving the world, gay skaters doing skating things or lesbian women surviving in the Zombie Apocalypse. But with trans folks? It ain't gonna happen.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, it's almost as if transgenderism isn't the exact same western-centric issue in every culture in the world.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

OP

Except your comment makes very little sense, because as a first world country with emerging transgender rights Japan has an awful lot of similarity with the Western worldview, it's about 10 years behind sure, but it's pretty comparable.

Gee golly gosh!

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

If you didn't have your head that far up your own self-absorbed ass, you'd know it's not.