[ SECRET POST #3652 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3652 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Lindsay Lohan and Eminem]


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[Captain America: Civil War]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation, "Ménage à Troi" s03e24]


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[House of Lies, Jeannie van der Hooven/Marco "The Rainmaker" Pelios]



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[British comedians Jon Richardson and Russell Howard on 8 out of 10 Cats Does Countdown]


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[Yuri!!! on Ice]


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[Judging Amy]


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[Final Fantasy IX]








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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

DA
Truthfully, as a lesbian, I agree with what you mean when you said lesbians tend to be used as fap fodder before characters. I feel it's what puts off many girls and women even liking lesbian stuff because the community has a sleazy rep by certain men into it. And i imagine at least yaoi-centered communities have other girls and women in it to make friends with, even if they're not even into yaoi that much.

However lately I've sacraficed fandoms and been reading more independently published lesbian western comics and webcomics and especially korean manhwa on lezhin, because I can't find anything that isn't school girls or moe in anime or manga. And old timey S-class (sister class) manga just isn't cutting it really. It's ever so lonely because I have no one to really talk about this stuff with TT_TT which is why I was hoping for yuri on ice to be a breakout girlslove series with awesome community and fanart... but alas.

I asked myself why I even got into anime aged 12 years old and I found myself answering "because of the relationships! And the cool action! And everyone looks cool!" So why isn't there any cool older lesbians/bis in lesbian relationships like yoi-ages with relationships beyond school girl scenarios with the same 5 plots? It's been 10 years since getting into this stuff and it's very frustrating I admit.

I'm even trying to work on making something my own :) (novel-wise, as I have a full time job and have never drawn seriously in my life haha.)

I thought I'd add on anyway that i found the yoi threads on /a/ really entertaining and it actually made me enjoy the anime. I did watch it to the end, and I thought it was very sweet throughout, many times exciting too. It's heartwarming to see gay/bi characters in same sex relationships be happy together so it was nice to see it just for that. Seeing Yuuri go from "I'm running out of time to achieve anything" to gainimg a partner, silver medal, and the friends he made along the way, was also very heartwarming.

The main theme being Yuuri's internal conflict is why I'm guessing there was no space nor necessity to the plot for a homophobia arc, although I feel more shows should take this "homophobia doesnt exist"/"a world we want to aim for" route to avoid rehashed plots and melodrama and get the characters together, and /then/ use other forms of conflict in their stories that isn't gay crisis or cheating, but rather have characters being interested in eachother as a secondary plot point and the main plot be something entertaining.

But definitely, as a lesbian, it's difficult finding shows that are directed for us (and that don't suffer from bait and switched on dead lesbians/bis and also don't suffer from "Never met a lesbian" syndrome :U)

[(Anonymous)]

Re: non-moe/schoolgirl lesbian manga: yuri-heavy Dynasty Scans has the tags "Adult Life", "College", "Office Lady", and "Non-moe art" that might lead to some stuff of interest (though you still run into the fap fodder/tragedy stories).

[digitalghosts]

Anon, you might gotten into anime a bit too late or early as lgbt themes golden age flew by. Was into sci fi mostly and would not say it had any relationships at centre unless toxic ones. However, I can mention what my friends liked. First would be indeed Sailor Moon but manga as heard it had quite a lot of lgbt couples. Haibane Renmei was about fallen angels living in one house and it had been about depression, never watched it but seemed pretty unsexualised. Utena was mentioned by someone. Noise was about a couple that was assasins but seen an episode but it did have some fanservice. Awfully unsure about Serial Experiments Lain as my brother watched but he does not remember why he thought main character was a canon lesbian. Read or Die was bordering with uncomfortable fanservice. Maria-sama ga Miteru was about a conservative boarding school and mental issues but no idea on quality. Madoka is newer and about reversed magical girls trope but heard it is more subtext. Wandering Son's protagonist is bi but ends up with a woman, have started it but never finished so she might have been a lesbian. Read plenty shorter mangas with grand characters but never remembered titles.

[(Anonymous)]

Madoka and Utena are very much tragedy porn, unfortunately.