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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-01-04 06:17 pm

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[personal profile] ketita 2017-01-05 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I mean I'm honestly not sure what you're talking about regarding "strict" judgement here. Most people in conversation are not spending the time analyzing your speech patterns, because they're actively talking to you. If somebody starts correcting somebody verbally then that's just kind of asshatty behavior, there's no call to do that.
I have ESL friends too, and I wouldn't correct their speaking unless they ask me to.

But for example, I know somebody who "umm"s a lot. Seriously a lot. Multiple times per sentence. And yeah, it's kind of painful to talk to them, but obviously they have friends who aren't bothered by the tic. Being judged by people you interact with is a thing that exists, and it's a thing you ultimately have no control over. People will take you how they will.
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(Anonymous) 2017-01-05 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe I have known some asshatty people because I have known people to correct others when they're speaking. I once had a friend correct my vocabulary when I was speaking a certain way completely on purpose, it was both obnoxious and insulting.

I don't know that "people will judge" is really a great justification for judging is all I'm saying. If I can't change that people judge, by the same token you can't change the way other people speak and maybe you need to find ways to make it less annoying for you?

Maybe turn "Umm" into a mythical creature like the Alot: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
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[personal profile] ketita 2017-01-05 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
It's not justification, it's reality. If your communication has certain quirks to it, some people may notice, and some people may tailor their interactions with you based on it. Not everyone. And some people may notice but not care. And some people may not notice at all.
I have no idea why you're trying to turn me into this crazed Judgey McJudgerson who is unable to talk to people without "finding ways to make it less annoying for me", what the hell.

All I said above was that you can choose to be aware of your own communication tics, and you can choose whether or not you care to do something about it. I have certain verbal tics that I eliminated because *I* wanted to, not for anybody else.

It's clear to me that you're taking my general comment and making it very personal, because of your own experiences. I'm sorry you went through that. Talk however you want to talk.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-05 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
Basically, they want you to feel guilty for feeling irritated by certain speech habits by pushing the "anxiety" "snobbish" and "judgement" buttons, so they don't have to change.

Pretty classic attack pattern and pretty shabby imo. Feel how you like, and I'm feeling right there with you. Communication is two-way and BOTH parties have some responsibility.
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[personal profile] ketita 2017-01-05 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
...yes, now that you mention it. Wow, some people are really incapable of taking any responsibility for anything, apparently.