[ SECRET POST #3659 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3659 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[ketita]

I kind of agree. I just have no idea how something like high heels is supposed to be empowering in and of itself. You're screwing up your back and sticking out your ass. That doesn't give you any kind of real power over anything.

Then again, people like to call all sorts of things "empowerment" that do not actually give any type of power.

Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[(Anonymous)]

Is feeling beautiful in something not empowering?

Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[philstar22]

Not really? At least not for me. Society wants women to be beautiful. Playing into societal expectations doesn't feel empowering to me. Sometimes I like to feel beautiful, sometimes I don't, but either way empowering is not a word I'd use in that context.

Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[ketita]

No. You do not have any more power over your environment than you had previously just because you feel beautiful.
You can say that it boosts your confidence, and thus allows you to do things you might not have dared to do otherwise, and some of those things may lead to you having more power than you did previously. I'm not saying there's something wrong with a woman dressing a certain way if it makes her feel more confident.
But I don't think it is empowering.

Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, but just because YOU don't feel empowered by having confidence, when one of the ACTUAL definitions is:

- make (someone) stronger and more confident, especially in controlling their life and claiming their rights.

Then... I'm pretty sure saying 'gaining confidence by feeling beautiful (or strong, or smart) is literally empowering...

Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[ketita]

The important part is the second half, though. Wearing heels does nothing. If you wear heels and then become President, the empowerment is the President part, not the heels part.

Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[(Anonymous)]

But you're saying gaining confidence from something (heels, learning a new language, feeling beautiful regardless of why) is in no way empowering, but if wearing heels gives you the confidence to speak up at meetings, or apply for a new job, or run for POTUS, then is that not empowering?

Even if they don't end up AS the POTUS, I feel like the fact that something gave them that confidence boost to TRY is still empowering regardless of the end result.

Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[diet_poison]

You may not feel empowered by heels but some other people might? Emotional responses to things don't have to have a logical basis to be legitimate.

Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[ketita]

I guess I'm arguing that a feeling does not necessarily equal empowerment. You can feel "empowered" without actually *being* empowered. I think if more people demanded actual empowerment rather than being satisfied by feeling empowered, we'd all be better off.

Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[(Anonymous)]

I think if more people demanded actual empowerment rather than being satisfied by feeling empowered, we'd all be better off.

Holy shit, that's so succinctly put, thank you.

Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[diet_poison]

I think when people talk about empowerment in terms of clothing, etc. they're pretty much exclusively talking about the feeling of being empowered.

Feeling empowered and fighting for tangible empowerment are not mutually exclusive.

Re: Weaponized femininity is sexist BS

[feotakahari]

I've argued before that the ability to make people want to have sex with you isn't power, because true, unforgivable power is the ability to force people to have sex with you even if they don't want to. Beauty isn't quite as narrow as attracting other people, since it can also influence self-esteem and confidence, but it's still pretty limited.