[ SECRET POST #3666 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3666 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

07. http://i.imgur.com/1gtMXKD.png

[kaijinscendre]

It doesn't even make sense! Dean isn't hard for a kid to say AND it is the same number of syllables.

[(Anonymous)]

Like, I get that an infant under the age of 2 might have trouble with the ending (a soft consonant and all) but any older than that? Kids usually aren't that bad at talking unless they have a speech impediment.

[(Anonymous)]

For babies and toddlers, it makes sense. Mum and Ma have the same number of syllables, but most children will say Ma or Mama before Mum. Partly because ending with an open vowel takes less effort and partly because children get encouraged to say the first thing that sounds like a word, and then stick with that for a while because Yay! Saying Ma or Da or De or whatever makes everyone happy!

[were_lemur]

It tends to show up in fics where Sam is infantilized to some degree or another. So it being babyish is kind of the point.

I have a friend who is really into that kink, and before I figured this out and learned NEVER to read any Wincest she recommended, I was very confused about how often it showed up.

Since this is such a common trope in fics like these, it's a good indication that the story is going to be Not My Kink.

[badbastion]

what if it's genderswapped and Dee's a girl? Is that okay?

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP

That's okay imo; I hate "De" as a nickname because it's NOT a nickname anyone would ever give someone named Dean, which is already one syllable. I kind of prefer names other than Dee for genderswapped Dean, but it doesn't grate on me the way "De" does.

[meridian_rose]

My uncle is named Ian. My grandmother thought no-one would shorten that! He had a friend from school who called him "E". Never underestimate the lengths people will go to bestow a nickname :)

[(Anonymous)]

Made up nicknames in fic rarely go well, but D for Dean extra doesn't make sense, because it takes no more syllables to spit out the entire thing. Plus Sam is constantly saying "Dean! Dean! Dean dean dean dean dean" every other line, it's pretty hammered into his dialogue, pulling a nickname seems weird.

[nightscale]

I've never seen fanfic with that nickname in it, which I am thankful for because I don't think I'd be able to keep reading if that was the case.

(The nickname I always saw was 'Der' in Teen Wolf fic and it was just... why? Derek is not a super-long name and it doesn't even sound good).

[(Anonymous)]

IRL I know a Derek who goes by Rick, but that's better than Der.

[nightscale]

Yeah that's a much better nickname choice, now tbf it'd still bug me in TW fic because no one ever calls him by a nickname but at least Rick doesn't sound godawful.

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty much any nickname in any fandom will do this to me. 'Der' for Derek, 'Myc' for Mycroft, even 'Mione' for Hermione, and I just gotta leave. But my most hated one is 'Sev' for Severus *shudder*

Well.

[(Anonymous)]

De looks kind of bad. I would mind it less if it was just D. But I think it's silly of everyone to decide that just because a nickname is the same amount of syllables, then it's not a nickname. Or that people don't give nicknames to people who have short names. They totally do. And, hey, it's canon in some shows (like on The Flash, full name: Bartholomew, goes by: Barry (already a nickname), is sometimes called: Bare (Bear?)). James often gets Jim, but sometimes Jimmy or Jamie. I've heard people that go by Jerry, get called Jer, and they might be a Jerry, a Jeremy, or a Jerald/Gerald. People with the given name Ed have been called Eddie/Eddy, Fran gets Frannie/Franny, Fred gets Freddie/Freddy. There are people with the give name John who get called Jack. Nicknames are not necessarily shorter, really, all they usually denote is familiarity. I have three sisters, one of which I always call by her two-syllable given name, one that I usually call by one of two two-syllable nicknames, though her given name is one syllable, and one the half the time I'll call her by her two-syllable given name and half the time I'll call her by either a one-syllable or two-syllable nickname.

Re: Well.

[(Anonymous)]

I was going to say the same, that D makes sense, but De? Is it supposed to be a phonetic spelling of D?

Whether or not Dean Winchester should go by D is an entirely different point, but I find the De irksome simply because of the "e" on the end.

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[(Anonymous)]

Adding a diminutive onto an already short name to indicate closeness is different from a pointless shortening, though?

Re: Well.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

If you think shortening an already short name for a nickname is pointless, then lengthening a short name should be worse. A nickname can be made for a name of any number of syllables and it doesn't have to make any logical sense, though many nicknames are shorter or easier to call out. And, yes, sometimes people don't have nicknames, but that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the length of their name. Someone who calls me by my nickname is generally closer to me than someone who calls me by my given name.