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⌈ Secret Post #3666 ⌋

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[fscom]

08. http://i.imgur.com/sqeNshV.png

[randomdrops]

Wait. Is that an actual possibility? I am so out of the loop.

[morieris]

Lucasfilm currently said there are no plans for it.

http://www.thesuperficial.com/carrie-fisher-death-lucasfilm-statement-cgi-episode-ix-01-2017

[randomdrops]

Huh.

[(Anonymous)]

It does seem a little disrespectful, tbh. Let her go, man.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's disrespectful, if it's only for a few scenes and to somehow bring closure to a character who is an integral part of the Star Wars universe. I'm not saying CGI her for 60 minutes of footage - that's way too expensive, anyway - but a few minutes to give the character a proper exit/excuse to not be in the mix of things. I mean, what else do you do? Just not mention her any more for the next movie?

[(Anonymous)]

She did film all her scenes for Episode VIII, IX would be the problem. I can see them handwaving it "Oh the General's off dealing with this" but that's not a great resolution. :/

[(Anonymous)]

It's hard, because you want to do justice for the character of Leia, who is one of the most important characters in the universe. But since she's so tied to Carrie Fisher, it's not like you could get away with recasting. I don't really know what the answer is; the story won't feel satisfying if Leia's arc isn't resolved, but you can't really escape the elephant in the room that Carrie's dead, either.

[diet_poison]

It's probably a good idea to not write Leia-heavy scenes in IX; they can use CGI for brief appearances or holograms. (that'd be a neat throwback to her first appearance too!)

I don't know if they were planning on writing a big arc for her. part of me hopes they were because I love badass older lady general princess Leia, but part of me hopes they weren't so they don't have to change things around a lot and make it awkward.

[(Anonymous)]

I've heard that they have to do substantial rewrites for IX, so yes, I'd say she did have a significant role. Hopefully it can be reworked in a way that makes sense. I know that Hunger Games did the best they could, but oh, I really missed Philip Seymour Hoffman in that last film.

[diet_poison]

That's too bad really. :(

[(Anonymous)]

There's also the chance that the character is already being killed off in VIII.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt but if this is the case, I would kind of laugh. After all the urgent speculation, ethical debates, and what - and here Leia was always intended to die next film. heh

[(Anonymous)]

Uncanny valley, man. It won't be good.

[(Anonymous)]

I think I've seen a lot of people against it because of how Carrie herself was so outspoken about how she didn't like how her image was portrayed and controlled by Hollywood, so any CGI recreation would be against her wishes. Lucasfilm has stated that they're not planning on it at this time.

However, seeing as how Carrie's no longer with us and how Peter Cushing's family gave the go-ahead to recreate him as Tarkin in Rogue One, the possibility remains. After all, Hollywood is Hollywood and I don't see Disney/Lucasfilm having a problem throwing a ton of money at Billie Lourde (or whoever now control's the Fischer/Reynolds estates) for the possibility.

Personally, I'm torn because I want some sort of resolution on the Leia/Ben storyline (any resolution, tbh) but I also just *know* it's very likely that somewhere in Carrie's will or estate plan there's a "don't let them use my likeness for jack shit or I'll come back and haunt all of you for the rest of your lives, Poltergeist-style".

[(Anonymous)]

I hope her daughter gets some degree of control to it.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't have an opinion one way or another, but I think people who vehemently object to the idea but raved about how amazing it was to do it for Peter Cushing are hypocrites.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't like CGI like this solely because I don't think the technology is quite there yet. Eventually, it will be impossible to tell the difference between a real person and a CGI character, and as long as the actor's estate is okay with it, it's a non-story otherwise.

Since the loss of Carrie is so recent, I think a CGI Leia would be jarring-- a reminder in the middle of an escapist fantasy that a real person is dead. At the same time, Leia is vastly important to this story and to write her out just because Carrie died is doing Leia a disservice. Nor can the character be recast.

There's no good answer. Someone, I wish I could remember who, made a very good point about this situation-- no matter what Disney does, people won't like it because what people would like is for Carrie to still be alive.

[diet_poison]

I mean, Episode IX won't come out for a few more years. I don't think it will be "jarring" then.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it will be jarring by the time it comes out if they end up doing it. I know that her death was a huge event for some of fandom but it wasn't much more than a surprising news story for the majority of people. Of course people still wish she were alive and feel sorry for her family (her earth killed her mother and JFC what that poor family must be going through), but really at the end of the day most audience members are just going about their own lives and Star Wars movies are just a nice little escape from the bills and grocery shopping and work and taking the kids to school. Seeing Leia again would most likely be a nice thing but no major thing if they don't.

[(Anonymous)]

because I don't think the technology is quite there yet. Eventually, it will be impossible to tell the difference between a real person and a CGI character

Okay, so...apparently they CGI'd a character for Rogue One because the actor had died? Yeah, I 100% did not notice. I think the technology is there, or nearly so.

[ninety6tears]

I'm worried because I felt they overused Tarkin in Rogue One. His presence could have been great if it was more subtle and not about flaunting what they could do, but they treated the character like they had an actor and if they do the same with Leia it will just be distracting.

[(Anonymous)]

That was a strong feeling I had through a lot of the ranting I've seen about 'don't you dare CGI her'. None of them personally knew her. They don't know what the fuck she would of wanted, maybe she would of been perfectly fine with it, maybe she would of hated it.

Kinda pointless to debate at this point since they said they won't be CGI'ing her. But, I totally felt the same anon.

[(Anonymous)]

I think they're rejigging the storylines for VIII and IX so that her already filmed scenes from VIII can be moved into IX.

I've seen this done before well

[(Anonymous)]

But realistic/non-uncanny dead people CGI really only works for brief pieces of footage. If they wanted to add a brief sequence where she appears, it would probably be fine