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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-01-22 04:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #3672 ]


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Re: Political pet peeves

(Anonymous) 2017-01-23 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
Asexual's insistence of inclusion in the LBGT communities and that their struggles are anywhere close to that level.

I disagree with all your points, but since this one seems to be such a common misconception, let me address it specifically, with this quote from a recent National Post article:

One 2012 study found heterosexuals expressed more bias and negative attitudes toward asexuals, wanted less contact with them and were less likely to rent an apartment or hire them, than any other sexual minority group.

Now frankly, I have zero desire to win some kind of oppression crown for asexuals. There is little doubt in my mind that the amount of discrimination and oppression faced by queer people varies widely from individual to individual, and I have no desire to use the results of a single study to argue that asexuals face more discrimination than other queer people. But it sure would be nice if other queer people would stop claiming asexuals don't face discrimination, or face so little discrimination as to be of no concern, when what little data does exist on the matter suggests that presumption is very, very incorrect.

National Post Article:

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/asexuality-own-unique-sexual-orientation

Re: Political pet peeves

(Anonymous) 2017-01-23 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. I just did some searching to see if I could find the study that is referenced in the article. Pretty sure this is it here.

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1368430212442419


It's interesting, and it's good to see at least a tiny bit of research being done on asexuality, since as that article points out, there's practically none.

I do agree though that arguing ace people are actually more oppressed is not what I would take from this study. There are so many ways to experience discrimination and comparing straight across works for some types of discrimination, but not for others. For example, asexuals appear to face much less of the overtly threatening oppression many lgbt people face, which obviously counts for a lot. But are asexuals less likely to have their physical safety threatened because people feel more positively towards them, or simply because their sexuality is inherently very low-visibility and so the people who would seek to harm them are simply unaware of them? It's hard to say. Though having read that study, that latter seems sadly likely.