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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-01-22 04:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #3672 ]


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Re: Political pet peeves

(Anonymous) 2017-01-23 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed 100% and I'm ace. The worst I'll ever get is people asking me why I'm not married/dating anyone. My lesbian friend, however, has been actively threatened with violence just for daring to hold hands with her girlfriend (now wife) in public. What I face isn't even remotely similar to what she's encountered and trying to act like it's on the same level is just stupid, frankly.

Re: Political pet peeves

(Anonymous) 2017-01-23 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
I'm ace, and I've had guys (in person, not just over the internet) threaten to rape or sexually assault me when I've told them I'm asexual. Only one of four L/G/B friends I'm close with has been physically threatened due to their sexuality.

Which is not to say that if one were to poll four other L/G/B people, you wouldn't get completely different results. But that's the point. I don't presume all L/G/B people's experiences are the same. I don't walk around going, "Lol, my L/G/B friends have had really positive experiences so clearly L/G/B oppression isn't a big deal anymore!" Nor do I presume all ace people's experiences are the same. And the reverse should also be true: Just because you personally haven't experienced a particular kind of discrimination doesn't mean other ace people haven't.

Re: Political pet peeves

(Anonymous) 2017-01-23 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
okay, as someone who is also asexual, i'm a bit baffled because how much sex i'm having is no one's business but my own and potentially the person i'm dating. when i had a boyfriend, no one knew how much sex we were or weren't having. but when i had a girlfriend, you'd better believe that people noticed when we were doing couple-y stuff and judged us based on that regardless of the fact that we weren't actually having any sex.

i'm not dating anyone now and when people ask why i just tell them that i'm focused on other things, which is the truth. i honestly don't see how being asexual is anyone else's business unless you personally make it so.

Re: Political pet peeves

(Anonymous) 2017-01-23 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Not sure about AYRT, but I get asked for my number quite a bit, I get asked to dance, I mean the sexual full contact kind of dancing when I'm out with friends, or I get asked if I want to go out some time, that sort of thing. When I say "Sorry I'm not interested," they often ask why not, and I could say, "That's none of your business," but that doesn't seem less likely to offend than "Because I'm asexual."

Or else I'm in a social situation and people are discussing their sexual experiences and relationships etc, and I get asked about mine, and again, I could say "That's none of your business," but that doesn't really seem better than just telling the truth, considering they asked.

Re: Political pet peeves

(Anonymous) 2017-01-23 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
But it is none of their business. It doesn't matter if you're straight, gay, bi, asexual or only interested in purple aliens, if you say "no" the answer is "no" and you're under no obligation to justify it, much less worry about offending them.

Re: Political pet peeves

(Anonymous) 2017-01-23 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
if you say "no" the answer is "no" and you're under no obligation to justify it, much less worry about offending them

Yes, and in an ideal world, people would realize that and adjust their behavior accordingly. But in the world as it is, some people are douche bags who think your sexuality is their business, and telling them otherwise only makes them more combative. But you don't always find out that someone is that kind of douche bag until you've already started to get into it with them. When they start to get nasty, that's when you know.

Re: Political pet peeves

(Anonymous) 2017-01-23 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
i'm not dating anyone now and when people ask why i just tell them that i'm focused on other things, which is the truth. i honestly don't see how being asexual is anyone else's business unless you personally make it so.

DA Well, the same can be said for any sexuality though if you're closeted. Yes in an ideal world, who we date and have sex with isn't anyone's business, but for some reason other people do think it's their business and that's why we developed areas for people who are considered to be "different" or not your standard cis heterosexual.

You happen to be an asexual who dates, not all asexuals do. I think that makes your experience a bit different, just like not everyone in the LGBT+ community has the same experience, asexuals also don't all have equal experiences.

Re: Political pet peeves

(Anonymous) 2017-01-23 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
Well, the same can be said for any sexuality though if you're closeted.

Yeah, this is what I was thinking too. And really, just a big old plus one to your whole comment.

Re: Political pet peeves

(Anonymous) 2017-01-23 09:46 am (UTC)(link)
all women are subject to rape threats for saying no to men, that doesn't mean you face a unique oppression for being asexual, but that you're subject to misogyny like everyone else. there are many men who hate any women who don't "put out" because they feel entitled to women's bodies.

personal experiences of discrimination without society-wide discrimination is not oppression.

Re: Political pet peeves

(Anonymous) 2017-01-23 10:59 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

So when a man tells a lesbian that she just needs a good hard fuck to straighten her out, you think that's not homophobic in any way?

Just, meh, sexism is sexism; the fact that he's saying it to a gay woman is irrelevant?

Re: Political pet peeves

(Anonymous) 2017-01-23 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
"all women are subject to rape threats for saying no to men"

So much bullshit.