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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-01-30 06:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #3680 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3680 ⌋

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[Versailles]


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[Mad Max: Fury Road]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Shannara]


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[A Series of Unfortunate Events]


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(Anonymous) 2017-01-31 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
It's trashy yaoi with good art at the end of the day

either you haven't actually read Killing Stalking, or you haven't actually read trashy yaoi. lmao

it's fine if fujoshis read Killing Stalking with a hand down their pants, but any respectable trashy yaoi has a lot more actual sexual content. also, cuter ukes.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-31 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
I've skimmed KS, and I've read trashy yaoi. I mean, if you want to remain in denial about what you're reading, be my guest lol.

It's obvious what the author is doing this. She's attempting to give some semblance of a storyline (albeit a bad and not very well-written one, like honestly anyone could come up with this shit) in order to titillate the fujos even more bc then they can use their ~imaginations~. Fujos love subtext, and they're going to be producing their own more explicit content and keep reading eagerly to see if Sangwoo ever fucks Bum in the ass.

Like, I don't know why KS fans can't just admit what they're reading is SUPER trashy. It's not a "complex psychological thriller." The art is awesome but the writing is very mediocre, and it's not any better than dudes who watch titty anime. I mean, it's fine if you like it, but let's not pretend it's something it isn't. lol

(Anonymous) 2017-01-31 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
I'm hardly in denial when I have zero problem with reading trashy yaoi. I love trashy yaoi. but like, you're objectively wrong. There's hardly any porn in KS. Trashy yaoi, by definition, needs to have lots of porn. KS hasn't even had an actual sex scene yet. The majority of the series so far hasn't even centered around sexual tension.

I mean lol like to each their own, if it's not your thing it's not your thing, and if you don't think it's good, you don't think it's good. ("skimming KS" doesn't exactly put you in a position of authority on the complexities or lack thereof in regards to being a psychological thriller, btw) But like there are literal equivalents of "titty horror anime" in yaoi, I know, because I read them. but you can't claim with any sort of objectivity that KS is just a trash yaoi when it hardly has porn, and spends most of its time, text, and panels on Yoonbum's psyche and terror.

like, no one is arguing there aren't fujoshi interested in the potential fucking. that doesn't somehow negate its genre as a psychological thriller, no matter how terrible or unsuccessful you think it is.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-31 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
"skimming KS" doesn't exactly put you in a position of authority on the complexities or lack thereof in regards to being a psychological thriller, btw

I only had to skim because it's literally the least complex thing ever lol. The character are hollow archetypes. The plot is pretty fucking straightforward.

The only reason you're arguing with me is because there's trashier BL out there with more sex. In the last chapter, Sangwoo is fucking Bum's mouth. It's obvious that a big appeal of this to fujos is the ~build up~.

At the end of the day, Lezhin is marketing KS as BL, and that's also what the author considers it. It's pretty obvious she doesn't take the whole thing that seriously. And the whole argument that it's a "psychological thriller" is kind of pointless. You can call BL about two salarymen fucking each other "slice of life." You can call BL where one of them magically turns into a minotaur and fucks the other "fantasy."

However, the main reason people are consuming these series is the m/m component. Same thing applies to KS.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-31 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
da

so, make your own yuri content then.

(Anonymous) 2017-01-31 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Just butting in here but...you're not correct about the definition of "Trashy Yaoi". That's not even a thing. There's no such thing as Yaoi Manga. There's BL manga, and that's probably what you mean, but BL manga can be rated G to rated X, and it's all BL. Shonen Ai and Yaoi are terms adopted by western fujos who didn't know what they were doing. It's not actually A Thing in Japan, since yaoi exclusively refers to non-canon content (so, yaoi doujinshi, but not yaoi manga).

Pedantic, but since you're trying to use the 'objectively wrong' stance, I thought you'd want to be 'objectively right' first.