[ SECRET POST #487 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #487 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 223 secrets from Secret Submission Post #070.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 - personal attack ].
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Comments

re: 38

[lucia-tanaka.livejournal.com]

First of, I am not trying to start a fight or a flamewar. Please don't take it that was, just a dissenting opinion.

You assume someone is a brainwashed sheep if they don't like rape or suicide?

No, that's not what they said at all. They said if religion was the reason, that's bad. And isn't it? I dunno, I think that even things that are obviously horrifying- the reasons why should be thought out. Just like if someone is against homosexuality, those reasons should not be religious, but a personal, well-considered choice.

Just for an example: I dislike rape in fic because it furthers a numbness in the media for violence (particularly against women) and leads to 'gorno' films. My dislike has zero to do with personal beliefs in a higher power.

Again, I'm not trying to start wank. I just happened to agree with the OP.

Wow, this got kinda teal deer. Sorry!

Re: 38

[powercorrupts.livejournal.com]

But what's wrong with religion being the reason that someone dislikes rape fics? Sure, there are people who blindly follow the teachings of a religion, without thinking about it themselves, but that doesn't mean everyone who agrees with their religion is doing so blindly. I can't speak for myself, as an agnostic, but I have some friends whose beliefs agree with their religion's, and they haven't thought about it, they have just let their religion do the thinking for them. But I also have some friends who have plenty of beliefs that come from their society, or their country's laws, and they haven't thought about them either. Is it more right to believe suicide or rape are wrong because they're a crime, than because they're a sin?

Is a person's opinion worth less if it agrees with their religion?

Re: 38

[lucia-tanaka.livejournal.com]

Okay, first off, I'm not debating suicide and rape in reality, but in fiction. Same as the OP. Just clarifying before I go on.

Is it more right to believe suicide or rape are wrong because they're a crime, than because they're a sin?

In fictional works, people should form their opinions because they've carefully thought about it and how it hurts society (by increasing apathy) or helps with (perhaps by exploring the concepts).

I think... and I try not to pass judgement on people for their beliefs, believe me, but I think it is more right to believe these things are wrong because of personal conviction instead of religious conviction. But let me explain why (and keep in my this is just my opinion).

Is a person's opinion worth less if it agrees with their religion?

Not at all. So long as religion is not the only reason they have that opinion. If they think homosexuality is wrong because the Bible says so, that is not a good opinion. If they believe it is because of social and personal convictions that are independent (or at least non-reliant) from their religion, that is very good.

That's my opinion. Again, I'm not trying to start wank, so in the interest of full disclosure, I'm an atheist who'll readily admit I have trouble comprehending religious belief.