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[ SECRET POST #3683 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3683 ⌋

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Also Tui has been doing this for sixteen years and been steadily building up to the outburst. It's not like Gothel or Triton. You're given context and you learn pretty fast why he's afraid.

triton wasn't afraid?

He might be. But he mostly seems angry and controlling to me after all these years. You can say he's afraid, but there's no context given to it. We don't have a why until a prequel that came out nearly twenty years later. Without it he just seems to be as he is so that Ariel is driven to what she does as opposed to anything else--a plot device.

Tui we get context, very quickly.

I could have sworn in the original Little Mermaid movie they mention that Ariel's mother was killed by sailors. But it was in a blink and you miss it way, so I see how Tritons anger about it would seem to come out of nowhere.
And with making Ariel perform and destroying her stuff, I can see the controlling side anyway.

Nope, Ariel's mother is mentioned absolutely nowhere. I've watched recently, he just complains about "fish-eaters" but that's. Not exactly context when mermaids are half-human and mermaids probably eat fish, too.

Triton: you went up to the surface again, didn't you? DIDN'T YOU?

Ariel: Nothing - happened. . . .

Triton: Oh, Ariel, How many times must we go through this? You could've been seen by one of those barbarians - by - by one of those humans!

Ariel: Daddy, they're not barbarians!

Triton: They're dangerous. Do you think I want to see my youngest daughter snared by some fish-eater's hook?

White Dad: You went downtown again, didn't you? DIDN'T YOU?

Daughter: Nothing... happened...

White Dad: How many times must we go through this? You could have been seen by one of those animals- by- by one of those black men!

Daughter: Daddy, they're not animals!

White Dad: They're dangerous. Do you think I want to see my youngest daughter gang banged?

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Minus any kind of context as to WHY he fears humans, Triton just looks like a controlling, racist dick.

They're fish people, humans eat fish. It's not the same thing.

You'd have to be pretty hard up to eat a fish that's human from the waist up and talking to you.

Not if you kill them first.

I try not to judge other people's eating habits, but you worry me.

What, you eat your fish while it's still alive?

Haven't you ever had oysters?

In Japanese folklore, eating mermaid, while a great sin, makes you immortal.

Yeah, but IIRC it doesn't grant eternal youth so it's basically a thing you don't want to do unless you're morally depraved and don't mind looking like a sack of flesh in 500 years.

Oh, so it that how Gothel got that way?

dang, black people eat white people? wild.

DA but I'm not sure people would eat a mermaid. That's kind of the point.

How would the mermaids know that?

It seems to me that before you start hating and fearing a group of people for doing something, you should have some evidence that said group actually does that thing.

No human has ever eaten a mermaid. Therefore, no evidence that they eat mermaids exists.

Especially when he calls them fish-eaters and I'm pretty sure the mermaids eat fish, too. o_O So it's like. ?????

Based on what?

They know they eat fish.

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Yup. It also doesn't help that for all that the audience knows that Moana needs to go and save the world, Tui(and others) don't really. Not 100% anyway.

He is being overly cautious, but he's got very good reason to be.

Gothel however has none of this, she wants the magic of Rapunzel to herself regardless of what Rapunzel wants or needs and is actively manipulating her into staying.

(Triton I think is explained outside of the movie why he's afraid? I can't remember if it's in the second movie or a behind the scenes bit on the DvD, but he does have good reason. It's just unfortunately not in the movie itself so he comes off as unreasonably overbearing, they could have done with that context imo, it makes a difference).

Triton... Was explained nineteen years after the fact. It's from the third movie where we see his wife, Athena, die. But without that context in the first movie like Tui's, and with everything else, it doesn't exactly come across as well-intentioned. Especially compared to the montage of Moana growing up where her father and mother keep gently redirecting her.

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