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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-02-02 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #3683 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3683 ⌋

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Re: Plot holes!

[personal profile] ketita 2017-02-03 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
That bothers me in a lot of films, actually. There are all these mooks that get gunned down, and often, they aren't even bad, just somebody doing their job, and we the audience aren't supposed to care at all about them. It bugs me.

Re: Plot holes!

(Anonymous) 2017-02-03 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, any one of them could have become Smith or any other Agent if left alive. It's not that we're not supposed to care in this case so much as they could become a hell of a lot worse if left alone.

Re: Plot holes!

(Anonymous) 2017-02-03 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but following that logic, Neo and Trinity should have killed everyone in the Matrix because any person in the Matrix can become an agent.

And this is pointless anyway, because the only reason none of the security guys turned into agents during the fight was because the agents didn't know what was going on yet. If they did, they would have taken over a couple of the bodies during the fight, like when Agent Jones took over the body of the guy on the roof during the fight there.
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Re: Plot holes!

[personal profile] ketita 2017-02-03 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
True. I'm not saying it can't be justified in the plot, it's just... idk, sometimes I think it would be better if there were some moments to mourn, or we got some acknowledgement inside the work about the deaths, you know? But that sort of thing would be a "downer" in most action films. Which is its own issue, really.

Re: Plot holes!

(Anonymous) 2017-02-03 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. If there'd been a brief bit of dialogue about how they'd have to kill the guards. Maybe Neo going, "So their bodies will be flushed, like that thing did to me?" and Trinity just saying "Yes," and a heavy beat, and then, "We have to get Morpheus out, Neo. Everything depends on it."

At least that way it's acknowledged and we see that they care. But of course, as you say, that would be a downer. And in the movie's defense, that shoot-em-up scene was SO. COOL. when The Matrix came out. Hell, it's still cool af. So I do kind of get why the Wachowskis didn't want to sour the awesomeness of that scene. I mean, it's basically an iconic scene at this point, and it might well not be if people had been busy thinking about the poor innocent security guards who were getting blown away. *shrugs*

I don't know, I think I still would have preferred if they'd acknowledged it though.