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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-02-18 03:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #3699 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3699 ⌋

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Re: Stuff you want to see dystopia stories avoid

(Anonymous) 2017-02-18 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
easy solutions that anyone who can consider things other than immediate results can see is a terrible idea in the mid to long run.

sex all over the place because when you're starving and desperate or otherwise concerned with how you're going to be alive tomorrow or next week, that's the last thing on your mind.

unreasonable, unexplained divisions of classes like rich people having super sci fi flying cities and poor people stuck on barren earth, where are all the scientists and engineers and labor and raw materials coming from??

grim and gritty grimdark cynical characters all the time because it makes no sense for kids who are born there who have never experienced anything else to compare it to freedoms or luxuries they can't conceive of. it'd be matter of fact to them

Re: Stuff you want to see dystopia stories avoid

(Anonymous) 2017-02-18 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
sex all over the place because when you're starving and desperate or otherwise concerned with how you're going to be alive tomorrow or next week, that's the last thing on your mind.

I don't know whether or not this is true, as a question of human nature

sex all over the place because when you're starving and desperate or otherwise concerned with how you're going to be alive tomorrow or next week, that's the last thing on your mind.

*clears throat* Perhaps The Same Could Be Said Of Capitalism

Re: Stuff you want to see dystopia stories avoid

(Anonymous) 2017-02-18 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
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whoops I fucked up my copy paste job, the second bit is a reply to:

unreasonable, unexplained divisions of classes like rich people having super sci fi flying cities and poor people stuck on barren earth, where are all the scientists and engineers and labor and raw materials coming from??

Re: Stuff you want to see dystopia stories avoid

(Anonymous) 2017-02-18 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
if you're close starving to death you're probably not out cruisin for pussy, i am pretty sure of this.

and i understand you are trying to make a joke about capitalism but that's why i put the word unexplained in there. too many dystopia have that divide without a system to back it up or explain where everything is coming from. the real world doesnt need that as reality is there for us to observe.

Re: Stuff you want to see dystopia stories avoid

(Anonymous) 2017-02-18 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
i guess the first part depends a bit on how deprived the people in the dystopia are

wrt capitalism I guess my point is it should - in a lot of cases - be possible for us to do a lot of extrapolation about those systems and those explanations if the world is remotely sensible in its construction because we should be familiar with the way those systems operate. of course expecting the world to be remotely sensible is maybe unjustified. I definitely agree that worlds where it feels like the entire world is all surface annoy me.

Re: Stuff you want to see dystopia stories avoid

(Anonymous) 2017-02-18 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah? that's why i said when you're starving and worried about not being alive the next day... which you quoted...

and not every dystopia is capitalist? you can have monarchic dystopias, fantasy dystopias, magic elite race dystopias, sci fi dystopias, whatever, lots of those are never explained in terms of system and backstory.

idk, are you disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing? or assuming every dystopia is an earth-based, reality-based, capitalist-based one and arguing from that perspective for some reason?

Re: Stuff you want to see dystopia stories avoid

(Anonymous) 2017-02-18 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe I'm just reading more into your comments than was there, because - to the extent that I'm making a point - it's just that those elements are things that feel extremely easy to justify in dystopias, rather than being innately implausible, and that's how I read what you had said. if that was incorrect, I apologize and withdraw my remarks