[ SECRET POST #3703 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3703 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that's not ever going to happen. Partly because that's not what production companies and advertisers think people want to see and they're probably right, and partly because...people ARE the things you say you don't want this character to be about. We are made up of our experiences, and a fat nerdy neckbeard is going to have different experience BECAUSE he's a fat, nerdy neckbeard.

[(Anonymous)]

In what way?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh Jesus Christ I'm not playing this game with you. Look at the world. Look at how people are treated in the world.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to play a game, I genuinely wasn't sure what you meant and in what way neckbeards would different because of their experiences

I really genuinely am just asking you to clarify because I don't understand

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, don't know what to tell you. It's a basic concept that people who aren't in the norm are treated differently from people who are, but it's not something that you can list Event 1, 2 and 3 and say these specific events are universal.

[(Anonymous)]

So what you're saying - and, again, I am just trying to understand you - is that having a "normal, well-adjusted, happy character" who happens to be a neckbeard would be in some sense unrealistic because of the way in which fat people or neckbeards are treated differently from the norm and how this affects them?

Its still not clear to me how that works out or why it's unrealistic but fair enough, don't want to start a fight.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm just bitching about the contrary phrasing OP used.

[(Anonymous)]

OK then

[(Anonymous)]

But "happening to have a neckbeard" and "being 'a neckbeard'" aren't the same things at all, like "happening to have a Tumblr" and "being 'one of those Tumblr kids'" aren't the same things. I'm so confused by this whole thread, if semantics is your concern.

[(Anonymous)]

Couldn't you apply the same reasoning to say that every overweight yaoi fangirl has to be bitter and single, no exceptions?

[(Anonymous)]

You're grasping at strawmen.

[(Anonymous)]

No, I'm pointing out that because people have different lived experiences doesn't mean they have to react the same way to them. OP seems to be saying a positive role model would be good for the people who kinda need one, or at least that's how I read it.

[(Anonymous)]

If OP meant to say that, they did a shitty job. But you can't say a person's life is built around X criteria but X criteria has no bearing on their life.

[(Anonymous)]

You lost me too, sorry. I don't think they said the character's life was built around being fat and bearded?

[(Anonymous)]

But being a fat nerdy neckbeard is A PART OF THEIR LIFE. By definition, things that are part of our lives affect our lives.

[(Anonymous)]

But OP never once said the character "is a fat neckbeard"? They consistently use like, "happens to be fat and happens to have a neckbeard" as in he has the physical traits but is not someone that would be all the meaning associated with that term as a social label?? I thought that was the entire idea.

[(Anonymous)]

But do they define the entirety of our lives? Cuz that's what you seem to be saying

[(Anonymous)]

SA
It's semantic bitching on my part, sure. But since semantics play a big role in understanding language...

[(Anonymous)]

Fat people are more jolly than thinies, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Or that every tumblr SJW is a fat chick(self-identifying as some special gender) with a shitty haircolour/cut.