[ SECRET POST #3705 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3705 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Bonnie Bennett, from The Vampire Diaries]


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[Criminal Minds, Alvez/Garcia]


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[Barton Fink]


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07. [(possible) SPOILERS for Supernatural]













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Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

BL often avoids sexuality labels. Or, there are often disclaimers that the character likes girls, so that is what makes liking a guy strange. These sort of love stories are often called "pure love", where the love is meant to transcend gender. Of course, I don't think that's always the case - the characters often very explicitly are physically attracted to one another's masculine features.

On the other hand, there actually is BL (yes, BL) that uses the word "gay". I recently saw the stupidest yaoi anime I'd seen in awhile, complete with awkward drug-rape sex that was played as comical, but the series actually called a few characters gay and even referenced one going to California to get gay married. So weirdly, it felt like a breakthrough despite everything, lmao.

Another good one was Doushitemo Furetakunai (No Touching, I think in English?). There's a live action version of the manga it's based off of. One of the characters specifically refers to himself as gay, and since it's a little more slice-of-life, it's a little more genuine about sexuality, though it doesn't go in depth with that or anything.

I think there will continue to be more BL that more clearly uses the word gay, or maybe even one day, bisexual (gasp).

[(Anonymous)]

im one of the anons that is a fan of okane ga nai around here and i enjoyed that that animanga of all fucking things, dealt with the "gay" label and how people are treated in society for having it. fucking okane ga nai. but other series won't touch it. it's hilarious

[(Anonymous)]

I hear you, lol. I mean, it's not like the word gay is never present in BL. And some of this stuff was coming out decades ago.

[(Anonymous)]

one day we'll have a bisexual character who likes girls then falls in love with a guy and gasp continues to be attracted to women and is shown being attracted to women because he didn't magically turn 100% gay

[(Anonymous)]

HELLO OP HERE I have to rush off in a sec but!!

> Points I PARTICULARLY AGREE WITH:

'oh but this character FANCIES GIRLS this is just THE EXCEPTION hes not GAY he's just into THIS MAN PARTICULARLY' which, you know, I'd be fine with! if that character was ever portrayed as liking girls to begin with. almost every single time I've seen this it's like someone who was coming across as asexual or like infatuated with the idea of a girl rather than 'no, yeah, dude's actually legit straight, slept with women and all, now into One Particular Man'.

Things I would like to rec:

There is a SEVERELY UNDERRATED MANGA I believe you would like, it is called Kinou Nani Tabeta? (https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=15332) and I would describe it as like 50% SHOPPING FOR INGREDIENTS AND COOKING RECIPES, 30% TALKING ABOUT FINANCES AND PLANNING FOR RETIREMENT, 10% FUNNY STUFF THAT HAPPENS IN THE OFFICE aaaaand the remaining 10% is like social issues and awkward situations that happen as a result of being gay, like your homophobic but awkwardly supportive mom who thinks you're trans because ??? that's?? gay right?? and your dad who is still in denial and asking you when you're going to get married and your colleagues you haven't come out to yet but don't really want to because there's no need is there, and it's easier to not, and so on. Also the MCs are like legit in their 40s, it's great.

By the way, in that sum? 0% fanservice. I'm not kidding. They're like EXPLICITLY IN A RELATIONSHIP and they are OBVIOUSLY fucking, they acknowledge it and talk about it, and there's like EXACTLY ZERO BUTTHOLES AND NO STUPID WHIMPERING.

Anyway I am salty forever that this is not more well known and people prefer lingering totally-no-homo glances and UST fanservice over very YES HOMO older men in a committed boring relationship but anyway yeah typing that made me hungry so afk for food now.

[(Anonymous)]

Did the guys kiss yet? I only read the first volumes and don't get me wrong, I loved it, but I missed some physical affection from time to time. It kinda felt like the author was avoiding it to not trigger the mostly straight men readers.

[(Anonymous)]

There's definitely verbal and some level of physical affection though I can't say I remember them kissing, though. And I don't know if avoiding it is not to trigger readers or whatever.

Like Honey & Honey is another EXCELLENT manga depicting a gay relationship, though it's literally college lesbians and much more on the educational and informative side of things (and also literally THE ONLY PIECE OF MEDIA EVER I've seen with multiple!! transmen who actually have distinct personalities, I was honestly shocked), and it also doesn't do any explicit kissing or physical affection though in both Kinou Nani Tabeta? and Honey & Honey the MCs acknowledge that they are having a sexual relationship.

It just kind of felt like, yes, they ARE, but it's private and if it's not relevant to the plot or what's going on, there's not so much of a need to show it - and I like it personally because I don't really enjoy onscreen kissing / whatever so much. I think it was actually very refreshing to have an explicitly gay couple but show that you could portray a committed relationship without needing to have them be REALLY OBVIOUS PHYSICALLY about it.

[litalex]

Yay for Fumi Yoshinaga. I just read her exclusively these days.

Her Antique Bakery has explicitly gay main characters, though I don't know how to categorise Kobayakawa Chikage. You really need to read the doujinshi she did for the series.

[(Anonymous)]

"You really need to read the doujinshi she did for the series."

No, you don't. Sunglasses guy doesn't deserve the shit he got from his slut boyfriend.

[litalex]

But Ono didn't do anything to Sunglasses other than have a relationship with him. And Sunglasses knows Ono might not be entirely faithful, that Ono is just trying his best.

With the owner of the bakery, though, that's sexual assault.

[alwaysbeenasmiler]

Fumi Yoshinaga is definitely one of the only mangaka that I read when it comes to BL

[(Anonymous)]

The fuck are you smoking, the rape wasn't played as comical. It was a horrific experience for the victim.

[(Anonymous)]

what are you talking about

[(Anonymous)]

The rape scene in the drug-rape sex BL show. How about you follow the reply chain.

[(Anonymous)]

use your head and not your dick, anon. What series are you talking about? because it is definitely not the one I am referring to.

[(Anonymous)]

The one where the guy who hated gays was accidentally drugged by his gay friend and then the friend raped him? I don't remember the name, but it wasn't played as comedy.