[ SECRET POST #3709 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3709 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

What I don't get is HOW they're supposed to be Nazis. They don't show any sort of racism or ethnic hatred. They're out for power over everyone and don't single out any groups to attack other than "people who are with/associated with those who're against us". Slapping Triumph of the Will imagery up there without backing it up with actions or philosophies is hollow.

[(Anonymous)]

Non-human aliens...

[philstar22]

That's only in the EU, though, and a bit in the Original Trilogy if you look hard enough. The Empire has that part to them. With the First Order, it really is just the image similarities and the belief in dictatorship.

Possible Spoilers for Star Wars cannon...I guess?

[anarchicq]

And with Thrawn now an actual cannonical thing in SW, the whole non-human alien thing kiiinda goes out the window?

Plus all the Inquisitors were non-human, too.

I like Star Wars Rebels probably more than I should...

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah IA

If anything calling every villainous organization with a sharp uniform and an eye to world conquest a Nazi takes them away from very real horror of the twentieth century towards cartoonish plot device and I don't see how that helps anything. but arguing the definition of Nazism on the internet will never end well.

[(Anonymous)]

If they have Nazi influenced aesthetics, that is - in fact - a significant connection

[ketita]

Yeah, this. There's something about the enthusiasm with which people fap to things that look like Nazis but ~aren't really Nazis~ that is a little discomforting to me.

[(Anonymous)]

This seems like a stretch. Like okay, you could argue that aesthetics were somewhat Nazi-esque, but basically all dystopian military industrial complex sci-fi has that aesthetic. But simply a few uniform styles - that were not even exclusive to the Nazis, by the way - doesn't make a Nazi. Nazism was political and social policy. Nazism was nationalism and systematic genocide against certain races and types of people. I don't think aggressive sci-fi militant governments = Nazi by a long shot. It just shows how watered down and generic the word "Nazi" has become in modern usage..

[fishnchips]

While yes, the aesthetics are (on a level that is, imo, so heavy handed and obvious that it's plain riduculous and borderline insultingly stupid) Nazi-esque, the Nazis were not the only group to ever have a fondness for brutalist architecture and sharp uniforms. So just saying "yes well they look like them so they need to have the same ideology" falls a bit flat.

[(Anonymous)]

That's what I was talking about. The imagery is there but the content doesn't back it up. It's like calling ACROSS from Excel Saga a Nazi organization because they use some imagery despite them canonically HATING Nazis.