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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-03-01 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #3710 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3710 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Glee, Mark Salling]


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[Pokémon/Pokémon TCG]


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[Scandinavia and the World]


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[Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, "Hushabye Mountain"]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation, Crusher/Picard]


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(Fight Club)











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Re: Isn't it supposed to be sort of a condemnation of that mindset?

(Anonymous) 2017-03-02 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
No, you're absolutely right. The entire point of the story is to condemn the whole 'I am tough manly man, violence is the only freedom, all social mores are oppression' mindset.

Unfortunately the movie kind of shot itself in the foot a bit by changing the ending, but you're still not supposed to come out of it applauding Project Mayhem. Which doesn't mean people don't, because misaimed fandom has been a thing since the dawn of time, but there are people who agree wholeheartedly with satire, too.

Re: Isn't it supposed to be sort of a condemnation of that mindset?

(Anonymous) 2017-03-02 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS.

I've always thought it was interesting (if a bit frustrating) that because of how they changed the ending for the movie, the movie ends up very nearly being antithetical to what the book is saying. Like, I agree with you that even in the movie you're not supposed to come out of it applauding Project Mayhem, but at the same time the way that final scene plays out and is filmed, there's something weirdly, disturbingly triumphal about it. I mean, there he is, way above the city, surveying what he has wrought, with Marla at his side. We're meant to be kind of creeped out by it, but also maybe kind of fascinated and thrilled?

I actually love the movie, despite or even because of its ambiguity. But I love the book more. And what really makes me love the book is that underneath all the creepy shit, I've always felt it's a book that believes deeply in the value and necessity of kindness and human connection.