[ SECRET POST #3712 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3712 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Dramatical Murder]


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05. [SPOILERS for Criminal Minds]



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07. [WARNING for shota/loli/underage stuff? I'm not sure which]

[Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid]












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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Point 2 says that there's "zero mention of and zero consideration towards civilians of all the other countries Japan fucked over as THE AGGRESSOR during wartime". I don't see anything there about who the protagonists of these movies should be. From what I can tell - and I'm not OP, so I'm just guessing here - what OP wants is for these movies to have some mention of and consideration towards civilians in countries attacked by Japan. I don't know what that looks like, but I don't think that it means that the movies should focus primarily on those civilians, or even that they shouldn't basically be about Japanese characters. What I think it means is that it's bad to portray Japan as the innocent victim of WW2, which these films have an unfortunate tendency to do.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

I haven't seen any of the films from the secret, but I get the impression most (all?) are from Japanese civilians point of views?

Would the average citizen be focusing on what could/might be happening to another country's civilians when their own lives are being torn apart?

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, okay, the problem is that you've convinced yourself that "media about foreigners" necessitates that the foreigners be the protagonists. Before you get any more worked up over that narrative, let me end this right now by saying that I did not mean that at all.

I don't disagree with the OP. I'm just noting that in general, it is rare for any country to do well with foreign perspectives, especially in difficult properties like war movies. The OP did ask for consideration for other nations' civilians, which would mean making them the subject of a work (again, not necessarily the central subject)... unless we're resorting to some halfhearted treatment like having the characters talk about terrible things going on in other countries.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, I see your point, but at the same time, I don't think it really demands all that much foreign perspective, or making foreign civilians all that much subjects of the war, to make a movie that acknowledges the role of Japanese aggression in World War 2.

[(Anonymous)]

If you won't portray the victims of aggression, but still insist on acknowledging the act of aggression, then that really is just talking about it. Which, well, the Japanese won't even do that much, and that sucks. But "just talking about atrocities" is lousy, cowardly film-making, and I don't really want to see that either.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly - and I'm not OP - but I would settle for just more moral complexity and nuance in general.

[(Anonymous)]

When will America make a movie that acknowledges the war crimes of Nagasaki and Hiroshima? When will America apologize?

[(Anonymous)]

Japan lost the war. What they did were war crimes.
The US won the war, what we did was just war.

That's how it has always worked.

[(Anonymous)]

lol

[(Anonymous)]

America probably should apologize for that. And while I can't think of a feature film about the bombings specifically, presentations of it in American media have definitely been extremely ambivalent and largely about the moral dimensions. I think an American film that presented the bombings in a jingoistic way actually would be pretty horrific, and I think it would be criticized as such.

I'm just not sure whether the point you want to make is actually there.