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⌈ Secret Post #494 ⌋

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When Ichigo fought against Renji and Byakuya when they came to collect Rukia, he lost to both of them. Don't forget Byakuya destroyed his saketsu and his hakusui. Once in SS, Ichigo may have won the first three fights (Ikkaku, Renji and Kenpachi) but he didn't exactly walk away feeling so good. The only reason he got rid of the three VCs on Soukyoku Hill is because his bankai gives him an incredible increase in speed and they were probably too shocked? It's been a while since I've read it, so I'm not entirely sure. In the fight with Byakuya his bankai did allow him to hold off Senbonzakura but he only came out of that fight alive because his hollow comes out briefly. Shortly after Aizen injures him even further, so much so that he can't even stand. The first and second time Ichigo fights Grimmjow Jeagerjaques (6th espada) he loses both times. When he fights Nnoitra Jiruga (5th espada) he loses in that fight, only being saved when Nel regains her powers briefly. After that Kenpachi arrives and fights Nnoitra. When Ichigo fights Ulquiorra Schiffer (4th espada) he barely makes it out alive and it told that even if he managed to somehow defeat him, there are three more even stronger than him. The end of chapter 315 has set up another fight between the two but between that and the fight going on between Aizen, Gin, Kaname, the top three espada and their fracción (8 in total) and the remaining captains and their VCs I don't even know when it will happen.

I don't see why Kubo should have dropped hints. We don't even see a lot of his father anyway although I expect we may in the future. Also all this talk of Naruto goes over my head, I didn't even make it past the 3rd or 4th chapter ): but I think I get the point you're making. Isshin isn't a main character either, so there is no real need to focus on him so much.

Why would he be so concerned about being split up? Even he is able to recognise his friends reiatsu and if it changes so even though they are all separated they are still able to keep tabs on each other. Once they had broken into Seireitei it wasn't very long until they all started fighting, and when your enemies are coming at you from all sides there really isn't a lot of time for much else so this complaint seems a little baseless. I won't lie, I was pretty shocked when it came out that Aizen was behind everything and that he and two others would defect. It seemed like Gin was behind it all at first but that was too obvious to be the truth. I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to by "yuri background thing" though.

I'm sure I sound like a total fangirl for Bleach, but while I can sing its praises there are a lot of things I wish were different. I wish there was more background on the characters mostly because there is a lot of things that are not explained yet. In Bleach, the fighting drives the characters and the plotline. I'm not sick of talking to you about it, but it seems a little frustrating maybe because you're set in your views even though I've countered pretty much all of your points :/

It's funny you say I'm set in my views even though you've countered my points. Because, maybe I feel like my points are problems with the series itself, and that our opinions just differ on this?

I mean, I didn't really see Ichigo's battle versus Renji and Byakuya at the beginning as a loss. He only stops when Rukia tells him to. If she hadn't said that, he probably would have kept fighting, and probably would have won. In the fight with Byakuya, he still got out with a tie when he should have lost. The reasons behind it don't really matter; it's still not a loss. I have no idea about the other fights you mention, but at that point it's kind of too late. I mean, I've already got my opinion of the series by then; I shouldn't have to wait until over chapter 100 to get to the fights where it's a struggle for him.

You completely need to read Naruto!! The story, characters, and plot are all just so well done! Every character is important, the enemies are rocking, it's just awesome. :D

Why wouldn't he be concerned about being split up? I'd be concerned if I was going to fight this huge battle to save someone and the people I came with got split up--it seems like it's a concerning issue. It's not a baseless complaint. Ichigo never seems to care about other people or to worry about them in any more than a very quick "oh I wonder" sort of way. It does bother me. The yuri background thing is with Yorouichi (I think) and that other chick, the only good fight between two girls. It's completely made of yuri win.

Well, int he end, that's why I don't like Bleach. I don't like fighting, especially pointless fighting, which I feel like most of Bleach is. I prefer plot-driven stories with character development. ^_^*

Oh, I won't deny that I'm set in my views! I can appreciate that not everybody will like it, and there are plenty of things I dislike about it too. I love the fights, but I wish there was more backstory, more story in general I guess. Also I appreciate you gave it a chance but I think a lot of the issues you had - I've explained most of them by bringing up things that happened after you stopped watching/reading.

You seriously think he'd have won? On one side you've got Byakuya who has been a captain for just over 50 years and has mastered his bankai. While Renji may have only been promoted to VC not long before the story starts, a few months later he manages to gain his bankai release. Ichigo on the other hand didn't even know that zans had names. Byakuya won that fight fair and square by cutting Ichigo's hakusui and saketsu. Then he left him for dead. He was totally overpowered.

Why wasn't Ichigo concerned? I already explained that point! They were all able to recognise fluctuations in each others' reiatsu so they could keep tabs on how everybody was doing regardless of how far away they were from each other. I really enjoyed reading the fight between Yoruichi and Soifon, they have an interesting backstory together. Soifon is mildly obsessed with Yoruichi, it's a running gag.

Maybe one day I'll give Naruto a chance in the future but I doubt I'd like it then. I wasn't really grabbed by it at all but I did go in with the attitude of "I'll probably hate this" :/

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