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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-05-13 05:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #494 ]


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Re: 57 OP

[identity profile] kowaiyoukai.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
It's funny you say I'm set in my views even though you've countered my points. Because, maybe I feel like my points are problems with the series itself, and that our opinions just differ on this?

I mean, I didn't really see Ichigo's battle versus Renji and Byakuya at the beginning as a loss. He only stops when Rukia tells him to. If she hadn't said that, he probably would have kept fighting, and probably would have won. In the fight with Byakuya, he still got out with a tie when he should have lost. The reasons behind it don't really matter; it's still not a loss. I have no idea about the other fights you mention, but at that point it's kind of too late. I mean, I've already got my opinion of the series by then; I shouldn't have to wait until over chapter 100 to get to the fights where it's a struggle for him.

You completely need to read Naruto!! The story, characters, and plot are all just so well done! Every character is important, the enemies are rocking, it's just awesome. :D

Why wouldn't he be concerned about being split up? I'd be concerned if I was going to fight this huge battle to save someone and the people I came with got split up--it seems like it's a concerning issue. It's not a baseless complaint. Ichigo never seems to care about other people or to worry about them in any more than a very quick "oh I wonder" sort of way. It does bother me. The yuri background thing is with Yorouichi (I think) and that other chick, the only good fight between two girls. It's completely made of yuri win.

Well, int he end, that's why I don't like Bleach. I don't like fighting, especially pointless fighting, which I feel like most of Bleach is. I prefer plot-driven stories with character development. ^_^*

Re: 57 OP

[identity profile] leinyan.livejournal.com 2008-05-19 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I won't deny that I'm set in my views! I can appreciate that not everybody will like it, and there are plenty of things I dislike about it too. I love the fights, but I wish there was more backstory, more story in general I guess. Also I appreciate you gave it a chance but I think a lot of the issues you had - I've explained most of them by bringing up things that happened after you stopped watching/reading.

You seriously think he'd have won? On one side you've got Byakuya who has been a captain for just over 50 years and has mastered his bankai. While Renji may have only been promoted to VC not long before the story starts, a few months later he manages to gain his bankai release. Ichigo on the other hand didn't even know that zans had names. Byakuya won that fight fair and square by cutting Ichigo's hakusui and saketsu. Then he left him for dead. He was totally overpowered.

Why wasn't Ichigo concerned? I already explained that point! They were all able to recognise fluctuations in each others' reiatsu so they could keep tabs on how everybody was doing regardless of how far away they were from each other. I really enjoyed reading the fight between Yoruichi and Soifon, they have an interesting backstory together. Soifon is mildly obsessed with Yoruichi, it's a running gag.

Maybe one day I'll give Naruto a chance in the future but I doubt I'd like it then. I wasn't really grabbed by it at all but I did go in with the attitude of "I'll probably hate this" :/