[ SECRET POST #3732 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3732 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

oh shuuut the fuuuuck uuuup. most of the people who like yuri on ice are fucking gay themselves.

[(Anonymous)]

You wish. Most fans are fujoshi. I'm sorry (and I'm being honest here, I think it sucks) but there are not enough LGBT fans to make something as popular as YOI is. This is the reason why yuri and bara are so niche but BL and fujoshi pandering shows are huge.

[(Anonymous)]

you realize you can be gay and be a fujoshi right

[(Anonymous)]

da

But fujoshi pandering crap isn't actual LGBT representation tho. Being a fujoshi is not a fucking political statement and you aren't helping anybody with it. Stop pretending it helps in any way. A lot of LGBT people in Japan feel fujoshi and male-gaze lesbian pandering shit in Japan has actually fucked things up for LGBT representation because people don't like LGBT representation that isn't catering to fujoshis or straight men.

I'm a queer man and I enjoy stupid bromance-y action movies and anime because it really gets me going to imagine straight guys falling for each other and then they have their Only For You revelation wherein gay sex (whether they be cis men, trans men, a cis guy and a trans guy, whatever) is super hot in the context of fucking someone who you love. It's hot, romantic, cute, all that good shit, it hits a lot of the tropes I enjoy like mixed sexualities, first times, etc.

But I don't pretend my wank material is doing absolutely anything for actual LGBT representation. In fact a lot of what I enjoy for wank material probably isn't very good for LGBT representation. I could make the argument that I think the pushback against "it's okay if it's you" stuff has gone too far in the other direction considering how many "guys with exceptions" and their boyfriends (and even husbands) I've known IRL, but the rest of it is the same kind of "mmmaaaaayyyybbbeee not the bext thing to associating with LGBT causes" stuff most porny things tend to be.

Why people want to pretend fujoshi shit is somehow different I'll never know. Your wank material is not helping LGBT people.

[(Anonymous)]

bitch tell me where did i say that this is lgbt representation. i said that gay people (mostly gay girls) like this shit. if it speaks to them on some level, if it resonates with them, then it's meaningful. how BL has impacted the japanese lgbt scene is one thing, but their culture is not ours, whereas media for girls, especially gay girls, is not only scarce, but constantly ridiculed. fuckers like you are not The Actual Woke Ones for shitting on girls because they don't like The Right LGBT Content. you're just more shitty misogynists trying to make girls feel bad about something that's important to them.

[(Anonymous)]

Lol you basically implied it because you twisted the other anon's words and pretended they said you can't be gay and a fujoshi at the same time when they were pointing out that it's mostly straight and bi women who are into this.

And it is. Lesbian women into BL/slash/whatever are definitely in the minority, it's overwhelmingly straight and bi women. The vast majority of lesbian women are into femmeslash.

LMFAO. "You're a misogynist because you're calling out my jerk off material waaahhhh". Sweetheart that don't scare me. Guess what, women are not above criticism for perpetuating shitty crap, and pretending that the endless pages of ukes with eyes the size of dinner plates and Yaoi Hands semes with heads the size of peas are somehow awesome representation or anything other than the fucking jerk off material that it is, that is my problem. That's the entire fucking conversation here. YOI fans pretending that YOI is awesome representation instead of BL-lite.

You can like problematic shit. I genuinely do not care. Jerk off to BL all day, it does not matter to me. I have plenty of problematic things I enjoy, really stupid things that are cheesy and dumb and have a host of crappy issues about them.

But do not pretend doing any of this is anything more than that. It's not a political statement to like BL/yaoi/slash no matter how much you want it to be. It's not "empowering" to fetishize gay and bi, cis and trans men just because you happen to be female.

[(Anonymous)]

if u ACTUALLY think the vast majority of lesbian women who like anime or other nerd shit are more, or solely into femslash you might actually be an idiot lol. not to imply that we don't, but uh, the amount of quality lesbian content made by and/or for lesbians is extremely lacking, both in quality and quantity. and because a lot of women have difficulty relating to or projecting onto female characters to begin with because of the lack of depth or thought put into them compared to male characters, many fall back on m/m because it feels like a safer/more comfortable outlet to project onto or consume.

you're upset that women are navigating the issues society has inflicted on them by creating this stuff and relating to it and finding meaning in it. you're mad because a woman sexualized a man's ass? cry me a fucking river, dickhead