[ SECRET POST #3732 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3732 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

DA

Uh...we're talking about a genre of shows that has a history of walking back even explicitly gay text, including where even a guy who made a freaking totally serious 100% not-joking dramatic naked marriage proposal to another guy in which he says "So this is what love is, I understand now!" and "I'll do everything your girlfriend did, please marry me!" and then they subsequently ACTUALLY GOT MARRIED was retconned by by a stupid homophobic "oh no they totally aren't gay, they're married and live together but they're totes just bros" hand-wave in a magazine.

Compared to that Viktor and Yuuri feel like pretty par-for-the-course subtext. As a guy who is LGBT I'll be the first to admit I probably see the world through some fantastically queer lenses sometimes, but once you notice the common "almost-text subtext" angle a lot of anime does in order to not give real canon queer representation, Viktor/Yuuri absolutely falls into that trap multiple times.

[(Anonymous)]

Samurai Flamenco was an absolute mess and shouldn't be compared with anything else because it was obvious the people in charge didn't even know what they were doing (I mean, the plot itself. And everything they said in interviews, including the "there was no character development" thing).

And btw Goto and Masayoshi didn't get married, no need to make up stuff to make it seems worse than it was because it's VERY BAD as it was.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow first of all how dare you

Just because you didn't like Sam Flam doesn't mean it's bad. I agree the interviews paint a terrible picture but that seemed more like desperate backtracking after they realised how badly the series was selling. For a story so fucking batshit there's a lot of obvious foreshadowing and thematic consistency. I don't buy that they just bullshitted their way through it.

Also the characters definitely do develop, just in a realistic way, which is to say they do change and learn but their core personalities stay the same. Mari becomes more aware of how her behaviour affects others, Masayoshi sort of learns how to rely on others and become a functional adult, Goto starts letting go of his crazy gf obsession etc.

I think AYRT is referring to an event in the mobile game. In that they did get married, but as side material it's only debatably canon.

[(Anonymous)]

(AYRT)

I love Samurai Flamenco not only as a sentai fan. I think is a fun anime, and as long as you ignore he interviews it's very charming. But I'm not going to pretend it's a great series because it isn't.

Also, the "there was no character development" thing was said BY THE DIRECTOR, not me. I agree the characters do develop and that's what make that interview absolute nonsense.

I know about the card game, but another company was in charge of that game. Though we don't know how much creative leeway they had, no one involved with it said anything to deny their marriage. The denying interviews were all about the anime.