[ SECRET POST #3739 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3739 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

This is about Yuri on Ice, isn't it?

Same poster

[(Anonymous)]

Never mind, I misread the bit about them pretending to be gay to gross people out. Caryy on!

Re: Same poster

[(Anonymous)]

But... how does any of that apply to Yuri on Ice? Like, unless the stereotype thing is gay ice skaters. lol I'll grant Victor maaaybe seems a little flamboyant, but I can't think of a single gay stereotype (besides male ice skater) that Yuri fulfills.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

Now that you mention it, people have put some pretty twisted readings out there about how the blatantly gay scenes are OBVIOUSLY meant as jokes, so it's possible the OP is one of those people and has read even further into it to believe the other characters are making fun of them.

But I have a strong feeling it's anime even if it's not YOI. I have no idea which one, but the description of what's going on in the show sounds very much like an anime thing.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

No, the "gay" scenes are meant as fujobait.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

Ah yes, the marriage proposal and exchanging of rings. Classic fujobait.

Please regale us with what they could have done to not be """""fujobait"""". I'll wait however long you need to move the goal posts. Don't stress yourself though; I know you're tired from doing it so often, so take your time.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

To not be fujobait, they should have said they love each other, not shown it with fujobait scenes. To make sure it wasn't fujobait love, they needed to say it like this: "I love you. Not as a bro. As a gay man. Because I'm gay and I love men." Then they needed to kiss without an arm as a censor bar. And with an x-ray view of their mouths so everyone could see proof that their tongues were in each other's mouths. Lastly, they both needed to be old and fat and flabby so none of it would be hot.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

not above anon, and you know that Kubo's gone on record stating that that wasn't meant as a marriage proposal, right? Kinda like, oh I don't know, how the show doesn't treat it like a marriage proposal either, but rather like some stupidly romantic-looking thing meant for the fangirls to giggle over and make fanart about.

Re: DA

[digitalghosts]

Can you link anon? Am curious as did not finish the show as not my thing and watched only for figure skating as mum's translator. However, Viktor is Russian and Russian's would never, ever do such gestures. In addition, Russian skaters interpretted it same way so if it was not intentional then ... it is weird.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

http://caramelcheese.tumblr.com/post/157165912168/yoi-meta-masterpost

it's in the post-finale interviews at the bottom. It seems that she put it in as fanservice for BL fangirls that they would be free to interpret as gay, while she never intended for it to REALLY be a same-sex romance. It IS weird.

Re: DA

[digitalghosts]

It is weird indeed and to add to more weird - we are from Poland and it was widely popular there plus we had access to Russian commentary and no one would have thought it was fanservice. Could be due to how anti-gay skating used to be (still is but few same gender duos did manage to go into official competitions in last few years). Are the manga authors same as show script or it is just same team?

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

For people who follow anime for women, it's par for the course to see good-looking male characters have intense relationships with homoerotic overtones. Yuri on Ice is different in that where others have left it at "really REALLY good friends", this one takes the homo level to over nine thousand but doesn't confirm that it IS, then goes out and says afterwards that it's totally a deep but platonic coach-athlete relationship. It looks super weird even for those of us who are used to it. To people not familiar with the anime tactic of keeping the fangirls watching by giving them slashy bits to squee over, it's probably hard to understand how two guys exchanging rings can be anything less than what it looks like.

[(Anonymous)]

Probably not since this seems more like American television sitcom gay characters that always have the gay characters as flamboyant and always hitting on every other male character and creeping them out or the lesbians as these tough brutes that wear flannel.

Not that Yuri on Ice is perfect, since I have huge issues with Victor as a character. Mostly that he acts like a fucking irresponsible infant instead of a 27 year old man.

[(Anonymous)]

I like that about him because quite honestly, that's how most adults really are (other than the exaggerated anime character silliness that everyone has and might look stupidly immature to you if you don't watch much anime). It takes a while to realize it, but acting like an adult is just an act. Me and everyone my age that I know outside of professional relationships are also really just overgrown toddlers.

[(Anonymous)]

Irresponsible infant - in what way? I grant that Victor gets the anime treatment in comedic moments, acting goofy and ditzy, but I don't see any serious moments where he doesn't act like an adult reasonably would. I mean, he seems rich, spoiled, and a little conceited, but the most impulsive thing he did was quit his skating career to go fly and be Yuri's coach without even talking to him about it prior, but then again, he thought Yuri invited him to do it, and anyway, he's hardly obligated to keep skating if he doesn't want to (especially since he's probably really well-off). But beyond the anime silliness, he doesn't come across as childish to me? In all the non-comedic scenes, he acts pretty mature, or at least reasonably thoughtful for a 27-year-old.

[(Anonymous)]

Mostly that he acts like a fucking irresponsible infant instead of a 27 year old man.

You sound like a Yurio stan.

[(Anonymous)]

They sound like Yurio, period.

[(Anonymous)]

Chill, Yurio. Victor still choreographed that record-breaking short program for you. You came out okay, go have a cookie.