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Re: Inspired by #1

(Anonymous) 2017-03-31 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly? Almost any main canon het couple on a popular show/movie.

The way most (het) relationships are written in fiction is so dull and uninteresting to me. Same sex couples are sometimes better, but like the OP in #1 mentioned, a lot of times they're really stereotypical, so they're not always better.

To me, pretty much the majority of couples in most things aren't that great. Usually I see way more chemistry/interesting dynamics between characters who aren't a couple and never will be, and the couple times pairings I've shipped have actually gotten together, the writers then proceeded to destroy everything that made them interesting/made me ship them in the first place.

Re: Inspired by #1

(Anonymous) 2017-03-31 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
This is why I have trouble getting into shows that center around a heterosexual relationship, if there is more of an ensemble cast going on or enough B plots then I can deal, but when a show is just about one relationship I get bored to tears.

Re: Inspired by #1

(Anonymous) 2017-03-31 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
I get what you're saying, and I can think of a lot of canon het pairings I find bland and uninteresting. But when I think about the canonical het pairings I do like, they're all really different and unique. I mean -

Mulder/Scully
Kara/Lee
Adama/Roslin
Veronica/Logan
Jim/Pam
John Connor/Cameron

I'm not saying I expect other people to like all these pairings. I'm saying that I think some people just have zero taste for het pairings because they're het. Or have zero taste for canon pairings because they're canon. Because there's waaaay to much variety in how canon het is written to dislike all of it for how it's written.

Re: Inspired by #1

(Anonymous) 2017-03-31 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
I should add, though, that I don't think there's anything wrong with just not really being into het, or just not being into pairings that are canon. That's a totally valid preference.

Re: Inspired by #1

(Anonymous) 2017-03-31 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Not sure if you'll see this this late, but anyway...

I definitely get what you're saying, and from your list I do like Mulder/Scully (I'm not familiar with any of the others you mentioned).

I think it's probably more canon couples that I'm generally not really into more than it is het because there are same sex canon pairings that I find just as boring as the het ones. For some reason I'm having a hard time explaining exactly what it is that I dislike about most canon pairings, it's just...idk.

Because there's waaaay to much variety in how canon het is written to dislike all of it for how it's written.

That's the main issue I have...to me there's NOT a ton of variety in the way it's written, and the way it's usually written is just boring to me. I mean, maybe it's just the stuff I watch and there's plenty of variety elsewhere, but in the stuff I watch it's really, really similar.

And maybe it's not really the writing so much as the characters, and which specific characters get together? I don't know, I'm probably not explaining it well.

It's like, I can start watching a new show, and there's a main male character and a main female character who are both attractive and the same age, and you know from the very beginning that they're going to get together eventually, and it's just...boring. Meanwhile I might think the main guy has more chemistry with a different female character who's maybe older or less conventionally attractive, and I like the main female character with another woman better than I do with the guy.

Or there are two dudes who are the only two gay people on the show so you know they're going to get together, even though they might have more chemistry with other people.

It's just...predictable I guess, who ends up together. And then once they do it's always the exact same formula of monogamous relationship, move in together, get married, have kids, live happily ever after. Sure, there's usually obstacles and drama along the way, but it pretty much always ends up in the exact same place. How about a couple with an open relationship? Or a couple who decides they love each other, but marriage isn't for them? Or a couple who doesn't want kids and doesn't have them (I've seen plenty of things where people CAN'T have kids, or where they say at one point they don't want them but then change their minds and have them, but none where they don't want them and don't have them)? I just feel like I've seen the exact same story a million times.

Or I might like the idea of a pairing because both characters are a little different/unusual and I think it would be interesting to have them together, but then when they get together it just leads to marriage and babies even if neither character seemed to want those things before, and the female character who was awesome and really complex and interesting suddenly decides being a mother is her sole purpose in life.

Or even if the story itself is interesting, I might feel like the characters don't have any chemistry. It's just very rare that I feel like the combination of story and character dynamics/chemistry both work for me.

I don't know, I'm probably not making much sense, and obviously I'm very picky when it comes to pairings lol

Re: Inspired by #1

(Anonymous) 2017-03-31 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the main issue I have...to me there's NOT a ton of variety in the way it's written, and the way it's usually written is just boring to me. I mean, maybe it's just the stuff I watch and there's plenty of variety elsewhere

Yeah, I think it may just be the stuff you're watching. Like, if we talk about Castle, Bones, and Lucifer, then I totally understand what you're saying, and agree. They're all extremely obvious from the start and feel like they're built to a template. And when you're describing the story you feel like you've seen a million times, those are the sorts of het ships which come to mind.

But the reason I included examples in my first comment was specifically because those examples are the epitome of variety. And they really don't fit that template at all. There is literally NOTHING that they all have in common except that they're all het and they're all canon. And even then, Mulder and Scully weren't supposed to be canon and didn't start being written as canon until five years in. And John Connor/Cameron were never officially canon but comments from the creator make it seem like they were definitely moving in that direction in some capacity. So actually, the only thing my examples have in common is that they're all het.

I mean, there's actually a lot more variety in the het pairings I like than there is in the slash pairings I like. *shrugs*

YMMV, I guess.

Re: Inspired by #1

(Anonymous) 2017-04-01 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Again, not sure you'll see this but...

Castle/Bones/Lucifer is exactly the type of thing I'm talking about, that's super obvious from the beginning and just really predictable and boring (to me, anyway). Like I said, I don't know what those other pairings you mentioned are from, but I should probably look into them. It sounds like I definitely need to branch out, tv-wise.