[ SECRET POST #3755 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3755 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

This is genuinely interesting and informative, case. It's not a trope/trope area I'm personally into and I can't see myself having ever used the word trap in the right context or the wrong one, but all the same, I appreciate the lesson (not kidding).

Re: Why was my post deleted?

[case]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridget_(Guilty_Gear)

The term is actually referenced on Bridget's wikipedia page!

Since Bridget is a boy who was raised as a girl, his sexuality has been questioned. Although his sexual orientation is undisclosed,[28] several websites have included the character in LGBT-related articles.[7][29][30][31] On other hand, Destructoid featured an article "to argue the heterosexuality of Bridget."[4] Despite the controversy, GayGamer.net, JeuxvideoPC and Destructoid agree that Bridget is appreciated by fans; on the Internet, pictures of the character appear with captions such as "Bridget made me gay" and "Everyone is gay for Bridget".[4][7][29] This was cited by GamesRadar's staff, which listed him among "characters we'd go gay for".[32] When John McCain sponsored a bill which would require ISPs and possibly websites to alert the government about illegal images of minors—including cartoons—Wired published an article entitled "McCain Not Gay For Bridget".[33]

Gamasutra's Zoran Iovanovici ascribed Bridget's popularity to the fact that he is "ultra feminized", adding that "[i]t's no surprise that Bridget has become a fan favorite over the years."[34] Stephen Kelley wrote on VG Chartz that Bridget "appears to be a 'moe' style cute anime character", but "[d]ressed in the provocative nun costume Bridget is suddenly a creepy sex object."[35] Pride St. Clair posted on the Piki Geek blog that Bridget "seemed to be playing towards several prevalent anime fetishes, including the innocent girl and the religious figure who is at once both desirable and chaste", saying that despite seeming "designed as a trap ... Bridget is a sort of touchstone, a basis for a productive discussion about the role gender and fetishism plays in fighting games and modern Japanese culture."[5]

Re: Why was my post deleted?

[digitalghosts]

To be fair - political climate changed and barely anyone uses 'trap' in original context bar people who describe themselves as such (*insert obligatory friend comment*). It was also not wide-spread as seen 'femme' or 'crossdresser' more and both are vast umbrellas. As for cartoon women with penises - futanari is best bet but it can be both trans positive with trans women artists and totally opposite with all negative tropes. Second is much more mainstream and women tend to back away slowly.

I do doubt that anon above was not a troll but again - social values changed and after a brief period of grace in some areas - we are back to sorting women into boxes they do not create themselves (as in: everyone likes different types of people on gender spectrum and also everyone should have a choice on how they want to be perceived so one woman might wish to add penis to descriptor but another would not).

The divisions of any person being some weird, alien niche where everyone decides if public can be attracted to them or not is horrific. Oh, usually it is a specific person aka. women - never seen such long winded discussions about blokes (here I assume binary blokes) and with that I mean robbing agency - sure people debate if they fancy some dude or not but not much about words a guy uses.

Re: Why was my post deleted?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not entirely sure that I grasp what you're saying, but I think a lot of this is effectively inevitable baggage involved in using language at all, and i really mean that. like, if you are going to use words to describe peoples' gender or sexual identities, and if you want those words to have any meaning on a wide scale, there is inevitably going to be a point where the words break down - there's no point where you can get specific enough to fully account for something that's so intrinsically personal and varied.

Like, it's possible to imagine everyone creating a word for their specific gender-sexual identity, but doing so seems like it would be pretty meaningless almost immediately. As long as we use words defined by consensus to define ourselves, we're going to give away some of our ability to control that definition. The best approach to me is to understand it and work within those constraints.