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[Elementary, Joan Watson]

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[Overwatch]

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[the new miniseries Anne based on L.M. Montgomery's Anne of Green Gables]

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Anyone watched this yet?

I don't dig on depressing media, so I wasn't going to watch it, but is it really as bad as this video makes it out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUQ9rD1ArpM&feature=push-u&attr_tag=jyMvoO8By6YoUt5r-6

I didn't watch the vid you linked, but my sister watched 13 Reasons and said it was pretty harsh viewing. But I think she meant the topic. But jesus this youtubers videos look awful, jsut looking at the sidebar and the topics covered.

Well, it sounds like its the success story of revenge suicide. Like from the sound of it, a girl killed herself, and listed all the wrongs that had been done to her by the people who did them in her suicide note, and the show is about the people she blamed asking if they're really responsible and everyone concluding that, yes, they all are.

One such example is a girl freaking out about sex with her boyfriend, yelling at him to leave, and part of the reason for her suicide is that he didn't stay with her when she yelled at him.

What videos are coming up on the side? It's only showing videos recommended to me based on my views when I click the link. A lot of family guy and overwatch.

Well, it sounds like its the success story of revenge suicide.

This was how it came across to me as well, and it grossed me out/pissed me off so much that I could barely finish watching the promo. But given the general lack of "think pieces" about how fucked up the show's basic premise is, I'm wondering if the promo just gave off the wrong impression.

What videos are coming up on the side?

I'm getting FACE FULL OF JESUS!!! and it's making me laugh so hard

I read the book when it first came out and it depressed the hell out of me. My little sister watched the whole show. I guess it's a thing among the kids in her age group. I watched parts of it and it was all right, I guess, but I couldn't watch the more graphic parts.

I didn't watch that video but I watched 13 Reasons Why (with my mom, haha) at the behest of all my friends, and we all really dug it. It was pretty harsh and I cried a couple of times but it was still good enough that I watched ten one hour episodes in one day.

that....that goes for 16 minutes i'm not watching that lol.

I watched it. I thought it was very hard to watch - because it focuses on a lot of heavy topics and it doesn't shy away from things being shitty.

It really shows how lots of "small" things can pile up on a person, and I think it also showed that someone in that frame of mind might not necessarily register the small things that show they're NOT as alone as they think.

There's a couple of rape scenes. Both those episodes are started with warning so you're not blindsided, but they're not pretty or glorified. They're uncomfortable and brutal.

Same with the suicide scene, it was all of a minute at the end - painful and sad. The whole series is...it's certainly reasons why she committed suicide, but I found the show more to be a focus on how other's deal with a suicide and the knowledge they may have contributed even with as something as "small" as a poorly thought out list.

It's very sad. I wouldn't watch it if you are currently already sad, as you come away from it feeling a bit of the heavy depression and loneliness of the girl (or at least, I did). Or the helplessness/mourning of the main guy.

I can certainly see it as super triggering for many people. There were times I needed to stop watching, go have a break, cause too close to home - but that's not being triggered, that's just...too close to home and needing a break.

It's binge worthy but idk. I did binge it, because I think if I had watched a few episodes each day it'd have dragged it on for me. But for others might be better in small doses with some breaks for air to resettle yourselves.

I didn't really like the girl who did the tapes, the tapes are completely fucked up idea, but overall it was an interesting series.

FYI, I didn't know what it was - i thought i was going to watch a nonfiction doco on ppl talking about why they nearly killed themselves. Boy was i surprised.

That does sound like galling viewing.

Can I ask a couple of questions about the rape scenes? If it's too hard for you I completely understand.

I used to get triggered by rape scenes (actual PTSD triggered not the internet meaning of triggered). That hasn't happened in years but I'm still, understandably, quite wary of it.

Do the perpetrators get their comeuppance? And how graphic are the scenes?

The rape scenes are pretty dang graphic (you don't see, like, penetration but it's heavily suggested), the sounds are realistic (groans and stuff), and they seem to go on for a while (not in a glorified kind of way but in a "this thing is happening and we're not shying away from showing it" kind of way).

It's suggested that the perpetrator will get his comeuppance but there's not any legal repercussions shown and some of the other characters defend him/his actions/don't believe that he raped anyone.

So yeah, I hope this is helpful!

It is. Thank you!

Ummm some people get comeuppance, some do not. It's not proportional either. Depends on your definition of comeuppance...and some of it is a bit "in the air" in the final scene. I'm not sure if left open ended for a season 2 or for artistic reasons. I would hope that the person who can deliver the final comeuppance does so. The parents might be able to as well.

The rape is graphic. It focussed mostly on her face and is framed to make you as uncomfortable as possible. There's no mistaking it is rape. I had to mute it and look away a lot.

There is another rape, that flashbacks happen a lot on and it is more fragmented and you see a lot of the girl's reaction to realising what happened/mental status. It is very sad.

There was only one rapist, and a lot of the episodes people are fearful of it coming out about him/don't believe he has. I think towards the end most of them start realising he has but don't know how to handle it or address it (imo they ARE kids? Like I thought...it's a bit heavy to expect kids to know what to do or handle).

There's a lot of showing not telling, so that's just my interpretation though.

Also the whole series is from the girls' POV via tapes and so...she's not 100% correct on situations at times, not a reliable narrator but her depression gets to you so it's pretty good at showing how she saw things.

Overall, I found it a very disorientating, surreal and unsettling show to watch. I wouldn't say it's a happy ending but the parents get...soemthing resembling the start of closure.

Spoiler alert

It's all rape and suicide with no holds barred in the filming. So yeah it's pretty dark and depressing.

Eh, yeah, it's pretty bad, and not just because it's depressing content. It's too like... "I bet they'll REALLY feel bad when I'm gone" fantasy, none of it plays out realistically at all. It's just Mean Kids doing Bad Things to a Perfect Innocent Girl Who Can Do No Wrong, so the whole thing falls kind of flat.

Really? Because I found most of the mean kids to have sympathetic moments that really made them feel more three dimensional.

And Hannah called herself out on making stupid decisions, or at least decisions that she made when she was too emotionally compromised to act rationally. As did Clay, now that I think about it (although he later regretted doing so).

I really liked the bit with the basketball kid with the car, where he admitted he didn't know how to handle the letter. It's heavy shit.

and that the tv series was able to show tidbits of their not so great lives too, that hannah was just as unaware of as they were of hers.

I'm not watching that video shit, but I watched the final couple episodes of 13 Reasons Why, and my take is that it's reasonably coherent and put-together on the level that you would expect from a YA drama. I don't think anything it says about suicide is necessarily wrong - more than anything it's just very unsubtle. I think for some reason a lot of people were expecting way more out of it. I do think the suicide and rape scenes were more graphic than I would have preferred but that's just a dramatic choice. IDK.

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