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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-04-16 03:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3756 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3756 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Elementary, Joan Watson]


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[Overwatch]


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[the new miniseries Anne based on L.M. Montgomery's Anne of Green Gables]


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[Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen/The Dark Crystal]


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(Legion)


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(Persona 4, Kanji x Naoto)


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[Voltron: Legendary Defender]







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caerbannog: (Default)

Re: 13 reasons why

[personal profile] caerbannog 2017-04-17 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
that....that goes for 16 minutes i'm not watching that lol.

I watched it. I thought it was very hard to watch - because it focuses on a lot of heavy topics and it doesn't shy away from things being shitty.

It really shows how lots of "small" things can pile up on a person, and I think it also showed that someone in that frame of mind might not necessarily register the small things that show they're NOT as alone as they think.

There's a couple of rape scenes. Both those episodes are started with warning so you're not blindsided, but they're not pretty or glorified. They're uncomfortable and brutal.

Same with the suicide scene, it was all of a minute at the end - painful and sad. The whole series is...it's certainly reasons why she committed suicide, but I found the show more to be a focus on how other's deal with a suicide and the knowledge they may have contributed even with as something as "small" as a poorly thought out list.

It's very sad. I wouldn't watch it if you are currently already sad, as you come away from it feeling a bit of the heavy depression and loneliness of the girl (or at least, I did). Or the helplessness/mourning of the main guy.

I can certainly see it as super triggering for many people. There were times I needed to stop watching, go have a break, cause too close to home - but that's not being triggered, that's just...too close to home and needing a break.

It's binge worthy but idk. I did binge it, because I think if I had watched a few episodes each day it'd have dragged it on for me. But for others might be better in small doses with some breaks for air to resettle yourselves.

I didn't really like the girl who did the tapes, the tapes are completely fucked up idea, but overall it was an interesting series.

FYI, I didn't know what it was - i thought i was going to watch a nonfiction doco on ppl talking about why they nearly killed themselves. Boy was i surprised.

Re: 13 reasons why TW: Rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2017-04-17 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
That does sound like galling viewing.

Can I ask a couple of questions about the rape scenes? If it's too hard for you I completely understand.

I used to get triggered by rape scenes (actual PTSD triggered not the internet meaning of triggered). That hasn't happened in years but I'm still, understandably, quite wary of it.

Do the perpetrators get their comeuppance? And how graphic are the scenes?
nanslice: (Default)

Re: 13 reasons why TW: Rape discussion

[personal profile] nanslice 2017-04-17 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
The rape scenes are pretty dang graphic (you don't see, like, penetration but it's heavily suggested), the sounds are realistic (groans and stuff), and they seem to go on for a while (not in a glorified kind of way but in a "this thing is happening and we're not shying away from showing it" kind of way).

It's suggested that the perpetrator will get his comeuppance but there's not any legal repercussions shown and some of the other characters defend him/his actions/don't believe that he raped anyone.

So yeah, I hope this is helpful!

Re: 13 reasons why TW: Rape discussion

(Anonymous) 2017-04-17 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
It is. Thank you!
caerbannog: (Default)

Re: 13 reasons why TW: Rape discussion

[personal profile] caerbannog 2017-04-17 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Ummm some people get comeuppance, some do not. It's not proportional either. Depends on your definition of comeuppance...and some of it is a bit "in the air" in the final scene. I'm not sure if left open ended for a season 2 or for artistic reasons. I would hope that the person who can deliver the final comeuppance does so. The parents might be able to as well.

The rape is graphic. It focussed mostly on her face and is framed to make you as uncomfortable as possible. There's no mistaking it is rape. I had to mute it and look away a lot.

There is another rape, that flashbacks happen a lot on and it is more fragmented and you see a lot of the girl's reaction to realising what happened/mental status. It is very sad.

There was only one rapist, and a lot of the episodes people are fearful of it coming out about him/don't believe he has. I think towards the end most of them start realising he has but don't know how to handle it or address it (imo they ARE kids? Like I thought...it's a bit heavy to expect kids to know what to do or handle).

There's a lot of showing not telling, so that's just my interpretation though.

Also the whole series is from the girls' POV via tapes and so...she's not 100% correct on situations at times, not a reliable narrator but her depression gets to you so it's pretty good at showing how she saw things.

Overall, I found it a very disorientating, surreal and unsettling show to watch. I wouldn't say it's a happy ending but the parents get...soemthing resembling the start of closure.