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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-04-27 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3767 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3767 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-27 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
on the one hand, I agree with you on mental illness, but on the other hand, as a writing decision, I really hate the manpain trend in which dudes almost always get the Super Special Life Destroying Pain That No One Understands including, presumably, the wife who lost the exact same child to the exact same tragedy

it just contributes to a really fucked up cultural perception of only men as the ones with real interiority and struggles

(caveat I know nothing about canon and am going entirely off the secret here)

(Anonymous) 2017-04-27 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
This is pretty much exactly what happens, except that there's also a teenage daughter and a small toddler as collateral damage.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-27 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
welp

(Anonymous) 2017-04-28 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, the wife in the show gets a pretty epic rant about how sick to death she is about how her husband deals with the situation: refusing to get help and instead smothering every one else in the family with his grief to the point where she feels she can't grieve for her dead son because he crowds out everyone else in the room.

All things considered, the show handled both sides pretty sympathetically.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-28 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
but does the fandom hate her virulently for being a shrill mean harpy

(I got burned so bad on Skylar hate, I will never forget)

(Anonymous) 2017-04-28 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
And that rant is 100% on point and well deserved.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-27 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm with you on that 100%. It's an annoying trope, and I say this as someone who LIKES angst. It's so damn unhealthy.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-28 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
The show Leverage had a great take on this. Nate is all about his dead son and then he runs into his ex-wife who cuts off his Giant Manpain with a brisk comment of "He was my son, too." He got a bit better after that.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-28 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
see, leverage was actually one of the offenders I was thinking of, because yeah, she gets to say that, but in terms of the story that actually gets told, who gets to be the Troubled Star of the show and have lingering camera shots for season after season and who turns into a criminal vengeance mastermind....like. the show says that Nate's pain is bigger and more important.

maybe I'm not getting the full context because I had to stop watching in mid s3 when my dad's alcoholism made it too personal and unfun to continue, and maybe I'll go back to it someday (he's been sober for 18 months-ish now) but yeah
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[personal profile] maskitheclown 2017-04-28 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I reaallllyyy hated Nate's character a lot but what made him kinda tolerable for me was that every now and then people called him out on his shit, his downward spirals were usually portrayed as negative and he didn't go "bad bad bad GREAT PERSON NOW!" but had realistic ups and downs. (Still don't like him.)