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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-05-01 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #3771 ]


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(Anonymous) 2017-05-01 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Why should a word that doesn't have that meaning - or even an experience (of being attracted to someone you thought was the opposite gender) - be blamed for real crimes? Transphobic crime absolutely must be condemned, and you're right, the transphobic panic defense is reprehensible. But that's not really the topic here.

and honestly, I'm mostly familiar with "trap" being used as a kink, particularly for guys (or fujoshi) looking specifically for art of feminine looking guys - so largely queer people. I'm not saying the word has any dignity, and I am absolutely sure some people on the internet use it in a transphobic setting, but if the word doesn't inherently mean that and if it's used regularly without that connotation - and isn't supposed to refer to actual transgender people at all - then it doesn't strike me as all that outrageous.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-02 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
well, I was largely responding to the specific defense of the word being offered, because I don't think it's a good defense. They present the word as being tied up with a specific light-hearted narrative, and that narrative is one that's extremely close to a fucked-up real world thing. So in that specific context, I think it's very relevant.

More generally, I think you do have to come to terms with the fact that - at the very least - while the concept of a trap is unrelated to the reality of being trans, it's basically identical to the way that bigots understand trans-ness. Basically any application of it to real life instantly brings along a tremendous weight of transphobic bigotry. At the very least, any usage of it outside the specific context of kink is definitely offensive, and I think the word has reached a point where it shouldn't be used at all.