[ SECRET POST #3774 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3774 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

For all the passing and moaning that gets done about this, it's rare that I actually see it. Do I see people use their ships as receipts for not being bigots or phobes? Yes. But that's vastly different from someone claiming a ship makes them an activist.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I see people outraged about the idea of fans claiming that they are super pro-LGBT by shipping slash pairs, but I've rarely actually stumbled across anything resembling it. Especially not for like incest pairs. Maaaybe for gay pairs that are canon or heavy in queerbaiting or probably intentional homoeroticism, but I guess I haven't been hanging around the right corners.

[(Anonymous)]

VERY common in Sherlock fandom, trust me.

[el_regrs]

It does seem rare, but it can be annoying when it happens.

I remember seeing someone actually lecturing everyone on their ffn profile about homophobia, just because they happened to like one (ONE!) fanfic that portrayed a gay pairing quite well. I'm like, dude, it's great you enjoy a story, and it's great you aren't squicked by it at all. But you are not the queer god's gift to the gay community by wearing your approval like a pride hat and then beating everyone else over the head with it.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

It comes and goes. Sherlock predictably got a flurry of "queerbaiting" posts just about every time a series ended. I still have a bad habit of scanning for LGBTQ keywords so I see "queerbaiting" discussions more than most people. I'm probably most tiresome for arguing that "queerbaiting" really isn't the most important issue that people like me face.

I had a partner who used her love of m/m porn to establish her LGBTQ-positive credibility. While her pressure for a threesome didn't kill the relationship, it was part of the downhill slide.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh I've seen it. Especially the people who are on a crusade to make their ship canon.

[(Anonymous)]

For all the passing and moaning that gets done about this, it's rare that I actually see it.

This is exactly what I was thinking, and I'm deep into a fandom that's surely one of the worst offenders (Sherlock).

One thing I have seen a fair amount of, in the Sherlock fandom, is people getting mad when Johnlock doesn't become canon, and explaining it as the writers being too spineless to deliver LGBT representation.

But while I disagree with that argument, I still make a distinction between that and people actually claiming shipping Johnlock makes them LGBT activists or something. I haven't seen much of the latter. Just a whole lot of people getting mad at the writers and yelling about queerbaiting and queer erasure and stuff. (I mean, I guess you could kind of read into these people's anger, and say they're acting like fighting for their ship is some kind of LGBT activism. That wouldn't be wildly inaccurate. But most of them aren't actually trying to claim some kind of personal virtue for doing what they're doing. Which is at least slightly to their benefit? Oy.)

(For the record, I never once believed the writers had any intention of making Johnlock canon, and personally I think they were fairly clear about that pretty much from the beginning. I am not one of the crazies.)

[(Anonymous)]

It used to see it all the time on tumblr circa about 2013. Though, I gotta say as much as "Jocklock saved gay marriage" posts were, it's better than the current discourses.

[arcadiaego]

There was a time when I saw it from Sherlock fandom a lot. When the equal marriage law passed here people were posting about how it was great because John and Sherlock could get married which...was not exactly the main point.