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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-05-04 09:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #3774 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3774 ⌋

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Re: Dead creators and their fandoms

(Anonymous) 2017-05-05 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Not so much the fandom but the adaptations, but I did kind of think that Alexandre Dumas might get a bit upset at characterisation changes but he would absolutely roll with the weirder batshit settings that crop up in his adaptations from time to time. Given that his approach to accuracy seemed to be that history should never get in the way of a good story, I think he'd roll with, say, the incredibly cheesy 2011 steampunk Musketeers, and I think he possibly might have liked Gankutsuou as an LSD space opera Monte Cristo adaptation once he got over the visual WTF of it.

Re: Dead creators and their fandoms

(Anonymous) 2017-05-05 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Just driving by to say I forgot about the existence Gankutsuou. The LSD space opera, with gay. (it was canon right? I think? it's been years, and my brain had trouble processing it all lmao..)

Re: Dead creators and their fandoms

(Anonymous) 2017-05-05 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
I honestly can't remember myself. I think it was very strongly implied that Franz loved Albert, at least, but I don't think anybody outright said anything? And Albert clearly had very strong feelings towards the Count as well, but I can't remember if anything was canon-canon or just really loud subtext.

(Which is pretty fitting too, since the original Monte Cristo had the very strong Eugenie/Louise subtext as well).

Re: Dead creators and their fandoms

(Anonymous) 2017-05-05 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
What I'm remembering is that the main character (Albert?) had a male friend (Franz?) who was canon gay. Albert himself didn't seem to return those feelings, but his interest in the Count was really... well, I remember it coming across extremely romantic.

...and at the time I saw it, I hadn't yet read the real book, and had only seen the movie version where Albert is the Count's son. I thought that was the canon, so I had all kinds of confused feelings watch Albert being so in love with the Count, and expecting the "big reveal" that evidently wasn't actually a real thing.

Also, I seem to recall that the anime had a female love interest, who in a preview for the anime had a gay moment with a female friend, but this was ultimately cut and reworked so Franz would be gay or something. So there was a real homosexual element, at any rate.

Re: Dead creators and their fandoms

(Anonymous) 2017-05-05 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Albert was the main character this time around, and Franz was his (blond) best friend who definitely came across as gay and in love with Albert. I just can't remember if it was acknowledged or not. There was definitely subtext all over the place, anyway.

And, eep, yeah, that would add a different slant to Albert's crush on the Count. That was the 2002 movie, right? The one with Jim Caviezel? I did see that one, but it was so long ago that I think the only real thing I remember about it was the Count's hot air balloon entrance that time and Jacopo being hilarious and long-suffering.

Re: Dead creators and their fandoms

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-05-05 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
In one of Dumas's crazier scenes, Benedetto gets caught after falling into a hotel room where Eugenie and a cross-dressed Louise are sharing a bed.

Re: Dead creators and their fandoms

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2017-05-05 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
pere?

The guy had ghostwriters, doing Monte Cristo sequels. He also rewrote the ending of Hamlet to better market it to French pop culture.
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Re: Dead creators and their fandoms

[personal profile] rhiannon_s 2017-05-05 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
Dumas was an author's author, which is to say his only question if he were alive today would be where could he collect backdated royalties. He wouldn't even raise an eyebrow at Dogtanion and the Muskehounds as long as he got paid.