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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-05-06 04:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #3776 ]


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(Anonymous) 2017-05-06 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
well that's great for you. as a transguy who can't afford hormones or top surgery, I find transman fic and art extremely uncomfortable. I don't like constant reminders of what I am and what I can't have.

it's not the fetishizing that gets me at all, it's the self-butt-patting glorifying of markers of transgenderism. like, "let's hit all the checkboxes - binder? scars? blind comfort with genitals? yay look at me and how progressive I am!" there's often an underlying smugness about how much better the artist/writer is for glorifying these giant blinking red flags of difference rather than just going with the cis default. that is what this transguy hates.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-06 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed completely.

I'm just thinking about these scars. They always look like a fucking butcher cut them up. Like beacons, signifying how virtuous the artist is.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-06 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
This, a hundred times this. I'm in a place in my life where I can't afford transitioning either and this specific type of fanart and fic increases my dysphoria just by looking at it. I don't want to stop anyone from creating this kind of content but it certainly is something I'm actively avoiding. It's not like it's meant for people like me anyway.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-06 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I think people on here were talking about this like a week ago? There's some shitty Marvel fanartist who draws all these markers SUPER exaggerated and acts like they're gods gift to transgender people. They even have all their 'transmen' characters wearing dresses and bright makeup all the time like it's some bonus representation modifier. The transmen I've known were not all opposed to a small amount of makeup or slightly feminine clothes OCCASIONALLY, but for the most part that shit made them super dysphoric. When my one transmale friend asked me to do his makeup, he wanted me to do contouring to make him look more masculine. I wish people would listen to what actual transpeople want in their representation.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-06 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Good old Rory.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-06 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes this. My favourite are those smug little shits who write surprise!transfic where they reveal halfway through that oh hey, character A is actually trans! "Look, you didn't even notice it and I tricked you! Look how great and progressive I am!" No, fuck you, you're an asshat who has no problem with potentially throwing actual transpeople with dysphoria under the bus because guess what? Fandom is my escapism to not have to think/be reminded of this all the fucking time.

[personal profile] digitalghosts 2017-05-06 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I would say that most are written by people who are also still transitioning and possibly younger so lots of stuff does not apply to older folks (or even younger or anyone at all) . I don't read those unless plot is something else but at least people have material and it might help them with various awareness.

OP

(Anonymous) 2017-05-07 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
In my experience a lot of the characters tend to be younger too. Like I empathize with AYRT, I'm poor as dirt so sometimes I worry I won't be able to continue my T and I was in a position when I was younger where I couldn't transition, so I get it.

But for a lot of these characters it's just not feasible for them to be post top surgery and while I do get the whole binder fetish thing (I hate it personally, that's part of the whole "fetishization" deal). I actually vastly prefer trans fic where the guy is post-top surgery since that's where I am too, but I'm not going to penalize somebody for writing someone like...say, Hinata in my secret, as not having top surgery yet. It happens, but it's much rarer than having to wait.

Re: OP

[personal profile] digitalghosts 2017-05-08 10:03 am (UTC)(link)
That is quite true - seen only one older character and I assume most would base things around either private medical system branch or WPATH one which would either need money or time (Scottish gender clinic list was ... a year and a half, then a year of appointments - worth it as our medical system is in taxes hence you do not pay directly).

The top surgeries are rather interesting as seen both extremes same as you mention and usually in teenagers and young adults. Waiting lists for those are long as hell but the price tag if you skip is hefty - I would not be able to afford that if I saved. I do wonder if those with binding fetish are unable to bind - idealised is as a teenager but not particularly fetishy (spine issues).

I guess it is the case of age slash area slash your own personality. Age makes sense as idealism and preconceptions.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-07 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Basically this. I've seen so many fics where the trans individual in question is completely okay with having sex and not being dysphoric about the genitals that they have, but don't want to have and I'm just like... oookay.