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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-05-08 06:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #3778 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3778 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-09 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
One of the reasons I write fluff is because it feels like something like 80% of the fic in my fandom is over the top angst. But specifically calling out someone's fic or fic prompt is crass and rude.

Have I occasionally seen stuff that's been "What if Character was a quadruple amputee who's also blind and has an eating disorder and depression, read about his beautiful suffering." and gone ".... time to work on my fic where Character is happy." ? Of course! But no one else needs to know about it. It certainly doesn't make me more moral or better than anyone.

I think the root of the problem is that with the new 'SJW' buzzswords getting flung at fic there's more of a tendency to frame what you like as more moral and Good, and what other people like as immoral and Wrong. Which is as old as fandom, my AU is creative and inspired, your canon-compliant is unimaginative and boring. Your AU is lazy, my canon-compliant is skillful. Your rivalship is unbelievable, my friends-to-lovers is more IC, your friends-to-lovers is boring my rivalship is exciting. It's just, I think, for a lot of people it's easier to shake off the accusations on if their fandom preferences are boring than if they're framed as morally wrong. Most nerds are used to shaking off being called weird by their peers, but being told they're sinners tends to come from authority figures.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-09 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
For as long and ramble as this is, I cannot work out what your point is in relation to the secret.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-09 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

I cannot understand what is so incomprehensible about their response.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-09 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems simple to me.

AYRT writes fluff because their fandom has too much angst, but they think it would be rude to actually complain about there being too much angst in their fandom, as the fic author in OP's screencap has done. They think that people in fandom today don't consider such a complaint rude, because they have grown used to framing their likes as being more moral, rather than superior for other reasons. In today's fannish culture, it's not considered crass to openly complain about how much you hate a trend in your fandom, so long as you frame the trend as being immoral/problematic rather than simply annoying to you personally.

[personal profile] digitalghosts 2017-05-09 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I know your fandom and if it is a weird novel series with a former KGB agent being a debt collector in Tokyo (least convoulted plotline plus she was my favourite). It had a lot of fics that literally had that as a plot and probably all had their limbs, families and the city gone in the end of fic. Did forget series name as it was translated from French. Either that or Sherlock Holmes.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-10 07:35 am (UTC)(link)
Good guesses but neither of these.

[personal profile] digitalghosts 2017-05-11 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Makes it worse as it means it's prevalent in more fandoms... which just makes those absolutely 'fun' with all those 'lovely' extremes that OP mentions. My first fandom was one where all fanworks were about chopped humans, brainwashing and cosmic horror which's fun until you kind of want something positive mixed with all that.

(As to extremes you snark at anon ... I just noticed last words as brain blanked them as I rock at reading)

Also ... teen-me fancied those patronising overtly intellectual types insisting they don't know anything about popular culture. Afterwards, really liked the total opposite which was as nice - and, that's just ... as wide spread in fandom. You said it better, I ramble.