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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-05-24 05:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #505 ]


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Re: 40, 70

[identity profile] puritybrown.livejournal.com 2008-05-24 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
40: Speaking as a non-American Iron Man fan, I loved the movie because:

a) Robert Downey Jr;
b) that bit where Tony's in the suit and he races the Air Force jets and then one of the pilots has to eject and his parachute gets jammed and Tony scoots over to fix it and then whooshes away;
c) a pretty strong implicit critique of US militarism (it's not too overt and it's muddled by the "ooh shiny battlesuit" and the "my best friend is in the military", but it's there -- Tony describes the current military-industrial system as having no accountability, and we see some pretty awful consequences of profit-driven weapons manufacturing; plus, the justification Tony gives early on for his "merchant of death" ways is pretty clearly meant to be seen as hollow and false);
d) Gwyneth Paltrow being incredibly charming as Pepper;
e) the robots! so cute! so funny!;
f) a stirring tale of moral redemption, with chases, fights and explosions and a guy in a giant powered armour suit -- what's not to love?

I think you're overstating the uniquely Americanness of Tony Stark, too [edit: as opposed to other superheroes, that is] -- there were Indian and Japanese versions of Spider-Man, and they were nothing like the original. Superheroes in general are a very American concept, and I could get very tl;dr as to why; but that doesn't mean their stories aren't appealing to non-Americans. Japanese pop culture is taking over the world, not despite its Japaneseness but because of it.

And us non-Americans don't hate American culture, as a rule. We just don't like the USA's dominance over global affairs. We're very happy to watch Hollywood movies and listen to American rock music and eat hamburgers and whatnot. If somebody told me I couldn't read American comics or watch American TV any more, I think I'd faint from horror...

70: ...yeah, that was my reaction too, heh. I don't even go to Mass any more, but I always feel strangely comforted to learn that a famous person is Catholic. It's weird.
Edited 2008-05-24 23:23 (UTC)

40 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-05-24 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the feedback, you made a lot of very good points. And on a less serious note, the robots were awesome.

Re: 40 OP

[identity profile] puritybrown.livejournal.com 2008-05-24 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh! And re Batman Begins: for me, it's on a par with Iron Man for the first hour or so, and then rapidly slides downhill. The atmosphere and emotional intensity of the first bit (up until Bruce gets back to Gotham) is incredible, but once he gets into the crime-fighting... Well, it's still good, but it's less interesting, and starts to get predictable. And Katie Holmes's substandard performance drags it down.

Iron Man is more consistent: it's pretty much good all the way through. It doesn't create the same intensity that the first part of Batman Begins did, but it does do some very clever things with plotting, the cast is uniformly excellent, and the action scenes are pure joy. Not to mention that, unlike Batman Begins, which is kind of in its own universe, it's very rooted in the real world. That's more a matter of taste than merit, though.