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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-05-22 07:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #3792 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3792 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2017-05-22 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
We haven't seen every previous incarnation of those other time lords. Not even the Master. He could have switched gender at some point during a non Doctor bothering point in his life. But we have the Doctor, and that is why it seems like pandering.

If they were going to do it, they should have done it for 9 ot 10.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-22 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
That seems like a completely self-imposed, useless, and arbitrary set of restrictions with no justifications whatsoever

(Anonymous) 2017-05-22 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Says you. But even with his many faces there are certain consistencies about the Doctor, and one of them is he has been male. Young or old. Cranky or silly.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-22 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
But is that a useful or a meaningful point of consistency?

I don't think it is, although obviously I'm open to hearing arguments if you think it is significant to the character.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-22 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

I want to say not really, to that? Because we HAVE seen all incarnations of the Doctor, and I feel like if he ever had an inclination (conscious or subconscious) to be female, it would have shown up somewhere between one and thirteen?

And this is as someone who if it was written well honestly wouldn't care if the Doctor WAS regenerated as female.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-22 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, we'd never seen him be Matt Smith before he was Matt Smith

(Anonymous) 2017-05-22 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
...So him appearing as completely different as is his preference means for nothing. Maybe he just didn't feel like being a girl right then. And now the Doctor does.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-22 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe he just didn't feel like being a girl right then. And now the Doctor does.

Which is fair enough. Though I personally would rather see a good female character in her own merit, not swapping the Doctor to female just because.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-22 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Why does making a female Doctor stop them from making other good female characters

I feel like I'm losing my fucking mind repeating this but

(Anonymous) 2017-05-23 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't technically in a world of logic, but if they swap a MAIN FUCKING CHARACTER to female then I really do feel like there's a huge chance we'll lose all the awesome female companions/minor characters and suddenly they'll be guys, because hey, 'we already have an awesome female character'.

I'm not saying it WOULD happen, and it definitely SHOULDN'T happen, but to me it's a concern.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-23 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I get the concern but it seems to me like that's a case of "sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof"?

(Anonymous) 2017-05-23 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Probably? And like I said, I would totally still watch a female Doctor (if they didn't fucking butcher the character in doing so), but I really do have concerns. Especially considering peoples' reactions to Missy.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-23 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
That would be the butchering of the character. To do so would butcher the character; do you finally get it?

(Anonymous) 2017-05-23 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
*shrug* I like Missy. I didn't particularly like Simm!Master. I don't feel either of them are written too differently to be honest. Both are a little off the deep end, both have a thing for the Doctor. So I don't personally consider Missy 'butchering' the character that was the Master anymore than Simm!Master was different than Roger Delgado or Anthony Ainley. All of the Doctors themselves, the portrayals have been varying even if core beliefs (protection) remain the same. I wouldn't object to a woman Doctor as long as she still had those 'core' Doctor beliefs and as long as they wrote her as The Doctor and not, A Woman Doctor.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-23 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Well that would just make her Romana or Sarah Jane, so, we're back to butchering the character again.

DA

(Anonymous) 2017-05-23 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
"It's butchering a character because I don't like it" has been your entire argument.

(Anonymous) 2017-05-23 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, they already made the Doctor openly bi

I don't think people will be up in arms about a female companion with a female doctor

(Anonymous) 2017-05-23 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Can confirm; you lost your mind and are just repeating this ad nauseam.


You got the symptom and the cause mixed up, prolly cause you lost your mind.
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[personal profile] analise 2017-05-23 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
I am reminded of the Tenth Doctor being annoyed that he was "rude, not ginger" and how he was really hoping for ginger hair.

What does his preference have to do with anything when he regenerates?

(if this is something that was covered somewhere in canon, forgive me, I'm a fairly casual Dr. Who watcher and am not up to date)