[ SECRET POST #3799 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3799 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Death in Paradise]


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[Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.]


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[Hook]


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[Parks and Recreation]


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06.
[Elementary]


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[Persona 5]











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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Well, a lot of male power fantasies are Gary Stu. Power fantasy, about 95% of the time, falls into Mary Sue/Gary Stu territory practically by definition. It's the idea of being SUPER FUCKING AWESOME and a self-insert for teens.

Though I'm not sure I understand your logic. It's rare because... authors are afraid to write it because it might be seen as Mary Sue? Pretty sure that's not right..

AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

I've actually read articles about female authors being nervous to write female characters because of the stigma. That whole Mary Sue fear has been around a long time in fanfiction and geek circles in general which, you know, a decent amount of writers come from.

It probably seems like some little thing that only exists among young writers on the net but it's really not. It can reach beyond fandom circles , especially when those young writers afraid of writing Mary Sues grow into adult writers afraid of writing Mary Sues because no one told them that writing a Mary Sue wasn't the worst sin you could commit.

[(Anonymous)]

It's exactly right, even if "Mary Sue" is still a pretty fandom-rooted term. Female power fantasies are rare because authors expect they'll be dismissed, derided, and written off as unrealistic and "too perfect" in ways that male power fantasies aren't.

[(Anonymous)]

No, that sort of sounds like an expectation you have that's not rooted in any actual widespread survey. There are loads of fantasy works that star female characters. Especially in YA. Lots of them are "badasses" - whether or not they are well-written aside. It's pretty ridiculous to assume that the fandom term "Mary Sue" is in any way stopping authors from writing (bad or not) fantasy with female protagonists. Go to a Barnes and Noble and go to the fantasy section. Fantasies starring women who fight are left and right.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

a "power fantasy" character has nothing to do with the genre of fantasy

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I'm directly talking about female protagonists who physically fight. They are a dime a dozen. It isn't revolutionary.