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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-06-03 03:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #3804 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3804 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Twin Peaks]


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[Chris Pratt]


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[Banlieue 13/District B13]


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[American Gods]


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[Stephen Fry]


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[Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir]











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(Anonymous) 2017-06-04 11:36 am (UTC)(link)
... Actually, what you're doing here is not all that different from what those radfems are doing. This faux-innocent "Oh but did they ~really~ do this or are you just one of those dumb people who argue strawmen radfems" is actually one of their favourite tactics.

Plus you're actually doing exactly what you're criticising - you take something someone said about abuse ("ignoring or downplaying instances of female abusers and rapists") and make it all about TEH WOMENZ who are totally more abused than men ever could be.

(And that quote also plays into the popular radfem tactic of "tell all women they are weak, pathetic little victims who should be paranoid about men 24/7 becvause that's totally feminist!".)

(Anonymous) 2017-06-04 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember rolling my eyes at that keychain/brass knuckles thing that was popular among feminists for awhile. Like it's so dangerous going outside into the big scary world, you have to constantly have a death grip on your keychain with the keys pointing out between your fingers so you can be ready to maim someone at any moment. I hate that fear-mongering crap.

I've never had a car in my life, I always walk and take public transit. I've lived in DC, Brooklyn, Oakland, and other cities, and RARELY have I felt the need to have protection ready. I think all this blogging about men being the enemy just terrifies women, makes them feel like perpetual victims who might be raped at any moment.

Now I'm not saying people shouldn't carry protection or learn self defense, my issue is more to do with HOW this message is being delivered to women. It never looks empowering, it always looks...frankly pathetic. Like, hey, pity this poor little woman, or even more annoying, this poor little woman has teeth now! All those big scary men out there will regret picking on her! What the hell kind of message is that?

When you log onto tumblr and all you see are people saying dumb shit like the skittles analogy, and turning half the world's population into a threat, it gets to you after awhile, makes you afraid. When you live in a state of perpetual fear, you're less likely to live an empowered life. If anything, this constant fear-mongering and finger-pointing in the current feminist movement is just holding women back. But it gets perpetuated because there are perks to it, you get pity and attention and extra assistance with things.

(Anonymous) 2017-06-04 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. I find it kind of strange how they can go around proclaiming "I'm a strong independent woman, hear me roar!" and at the exact same time shout "women are weak little flowers who need to be afraid all the time" and never notice that these two things really contradict each other.

And your last point is also something that really annoys me about plenty of feminists: Quite a few of them only care about equality when it benefits them and not if it inconveniences them. I rarely see them advocating for "more women in high risk jobs" or "extend the draft to women as well" and I think that's kind of hypocritical.