[ SECRET POST #3804 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3804 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Twin Peaks]


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[Chris Pratt]


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[Banlieue 13/District B13]


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[American Gods]


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[Stephen Fry]


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[Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir]











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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

What was the context in them 'ignoring or downplaying instances of female abusers and rapists'?

Were they talking about, say domestic violence and someone said 'But women can be violent too!'? Because I find that's common- whenever a feminist (not even a radfem one) wants to talk about issues of violence against women. Someone says something like that because they want to misdirect the conversation and (ironically) make it 'but what about the menz?????')

Or were they defending a known female abuser? In which case, yeah, that's really not cool. No one should be subject to abuse, whether it be by men or women.

No, not all men are predators. Obviously. But I always think back to a famous quote.

"Men are afraid women are going to laugh at them. Women are afraid men are going to kill them."

[(Anonymous)]

Many varying instances.

I used to be friends with a radfem who blatantly talked about coercing and bullying women into sex, but when I called her out on how rapey that was, her and all her radfem friends jumped on me like I was the asshole.

I've seen women and men realize that they were abused by women after denying for a long time because, culturally, women aren't considered domestic abusers.

I've seen abusive behavior ignored or laughed about because it was done by a woman.

Pretty much all discussion of abuse, domestic violence in particular, is biased towards men beating women. And abuse caused by women is considered fringe or not as bad.

The last radfem friend I had ended up becoming a TERF. The final straw with our friendship was when she posted some bullshit about the reason why there's been a statistical increase in violence by women in recent years, isn't because people are becoming more educated about things like gender and abuse and therefore more willing to call out behavior that would have otherwise been overlooked, but because of all the transwomen coming out nowadays. Cause men are just inherently violent and women could NEVER do anything wrong.

It's bizarre, it's almost like they think women are too weak and docile and helpless to be abusive.

Anyway, my brain has been fucked for a few days now so I can't think of any other examples.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT
It pisses me off as well when they go the "If WOMEN ruled the world, everything would be a peaceful, charming wonderland without injustice, violence or corruption" and... seriously? Marine Le Pen, Margaret Thatcher and a whole lot of other female politicians would like to differ, I think.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

Yeah, honestly when people talk like that I feel like they're unintentionally degrading women. Like women are too docile or naive or simple to ever be conniving and power-hungry.

Women are just as capable of evil and wrongdoing as men are (I should know, I spent years as a non-violent criminal and got away with it I think largely because women are stereotyped to be law-abiding). I think women are just socialized in ways where that negative potential often takes a different form to how it does with men.

[(Anonymous)]

Fully agreed!

[(Anonymous)]

... Actually, what you're doing here is not all that different from what those radfems are doing. This faux-innocent "Oh but did they ~really~ do this or are you just one of those dumb people who argue strawmen radfems" is actually one of their favourite tactics.

Plus you're actually doing exactly what you're criticising - you take something someone said about abuse ("ignoring or downplaying instances of female abusers and rapists") and make it all about TEH WOMENZ who are totally more abused than men ever could be.

(And that quote also plays into the popular radfem tactic of "tell all women they are weak, pathetic little victims who should be paranoid about men 24/7 becvause that's totally feminist!".)

[(Anonymous)]

I remember rolling my eyes at that keychain/brass knuckles thing that was popular among feminists for awhile. Like it's so dangerous going outside into the big scary world, you have to constantly have a death grip on your keychain with the keys pointing out between your fingers so you can be ready to maim someone at any moment. I hate that fear-mongering crap.

I've never had a car in my life, I always walk and take public transit. I've lived in DC, Brooklyn, Oakland, and other cities, and RARELY have I felt the need to have protection ready. I think all this blogging about men being the enemy just terrifies women, makes them feel like perpetual victims who might be raped at any moment.

Now I'm not saying people shouldn't carry protection or learn self defense, my issue is more to do with HOW this message is being delivered to women. It never looks empowering, it always looks...frankly pathetic. Like, hey, pity this poor little woman, or even more annoying, this poor little woman has teeth now! All those big scary men out there will regret picking on her! What the hell kind of message is that?

When you log onto tumblr and all you see are people saying dumb shit like the skittles analogy, and turning half the world's population into a threat, it gets to you after awhile, makes you afraid. When you live in a state of perpetual fear, you're less likely to live an empowered life. If anything, this constant fear-mongering and finger-pointing in the current feminist movement is just holding women back. But it gets perpetuated because there are perks to it, you get pity and attention and extra assistance with things.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. I find it kind of strange how they can go around proclaiming "I'm a strong independent woman, hear me roar!" and at the exact same time shout "women are weak little flowers who need to be afraid all the time" and never notice that these two things really contradict each other.

And your last point is also something that really annoys me about plenty of feminists: Quite a few of them only care about equality when it benefits them and not if it inconveniences them. I rarely see them advocating for "more women in high risk jobs" or "extend the draft to women as well" and I think that's kind of hypocritical.