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fandomsecrets2017-06-08 06:34 pm
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Re: Things that stick in your craw
(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 12:49 am (UTC)(link)1. So chips would be okay, but high sugar things would not be? How do you justify that distinction, as chips are just as bad for me as a sugary treat?
Actually, as I don't like sugary things and never have, so I rarely eat them, the calories from refined flour are doing me much more harm than an occasional piece of birthday cake or occasional piece of dark chocolate at that time of the month.
2. I suppose you technically aren't judging me, due to my lack of sweets consumption, but you are certainly being judgmental. But it's all for poor people's own good, of course, according to you. I wouldn't mind a positive way to get people to eat healthier. Like if fruits and vegetables and other things were subsidized so I didn't feel like I was wasting money buying them when instead I could buy a pound of pasta for $.50. Or allowing me to work at a public garden once a week in exchange for getting free vegetables. (I live in an apartment in the city, so I can't grow my own.) Or other ways. Telling me that I can't do something because it is bad for me makes you sound like you want to control me and my choices because obviously you know my life better than I do, which is judging me and my choices.
Re: Things that stick in your craw
(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 12:54 am (UTC)(link)Re: Things that stick in your craw
(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 01:25 am (UTC)(link)See, this? "advocating the allocation government funds for healthier food" in theory I could get behind. Encouraging the money to go to healthy foods is a fine goal. There are several ways this could be done. Like my city gives good exchanges for food stamps at the public market. (Which is where farmers sell their local produce directly to people at a discount price to the grocery store.) I would love if somehow they managed to make it easier/cheaper for people to go there. I can only go if I can hitch a ride with someone, as I can't justify paying the bus fare and certainly can't walk while carrying all of that, especially given how far away it is. There are other ways to encourage the use of money toward healthy foods too.
What I have an issue with is that you aren't approaching the issue positively. With "how can we help people to make healthier choices." Instead you approached it negatively with "poor people aren't allowed to get anything high in sugar." Being negative about it feels very punitive and judgmental. Plus your criteria is arbitrary, as I really don't see a twinkie being worse than a bag of chips. Which is what I (and presumably others) were bothered by.
I really would love to eat healthy. I had about a year where I had some extra money and was able to do so, and I lost 40 pounds, which was awesome. But then life (and hospital bills and other stuff) happened, and I went back to scrounging for money and eating poorly because it was cheap, and the weight slowly crept back on. I would love if the government came up with a way for me to be able to eat better. I just don't want them controlling what I can and can't eat. And even the idea of that possibly happening bothers me.
Re: Things that stick in your craw
(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 02:00 am (UTC)(link)Re: Things that stick in your craw
(Anonymous) 2017-06-09 02:50 am (UTC)(link)I'm not going to go into much, as I feel we might have discussed it all, pretty much, but I wanted to clarify something. When talking about changing people's behavior, "positive" means you are giving them something to hopefully change their behavior, while "negative" means you are taking something away. So if you wanted a child to get good grades, "positive" would be to give them $5 for every A, while "negative" would be to take away their cell phone if they didn't get all As. (There is more to it, but that is a basic overview.) As you were taking about taking away high sugar foods to force people to be healthy, you were advocating a negative solution. I prefer positive methods. If that makes sense?